Sabre’s fans debating if they should trade Cozens for Monahan most day no.
I read a suggestion of Reinhart and 8 but I think I would prefer Cozens and a Dman
I’d do Reinhart and the 8th.
Turn that 8th into Rossi, Perfetti or Lundell and that’s a win in my books. Although it creates a big problem at centre ice. Reinhart is an RW.
I really like the RW spot after that trade though, but we’d be asking Backlund to be a #1 and Bennett to be a #2 next season...which whatever, so how it works out.
Taken seventh overall in the 2019 NHL Draft, Dylan Cozens is an all-around stud, capable of playing in any situation and excelling. He’s an elite talent with high-end skating and creativity with the puck. He’s currently with the Lethbridge Hurricanes tearing up the WHL for a season before having a great chance to see the NHL in 2020-21.
There was a chance Cozens could have made the Sabres this season, but I think the team made a pragmatic decision in sending him back to the WHL. He is top-three in the WHL in points per game and was a force at the World Junior Championship. An absolute horse, Cozens can fly up and down the ice and is finishing plays a lot better than he did a season ago. There's a consistency to his game. He has gotten better and better as the season has worn on and looks far more prepared to step into the Sabres' lineup as early as next season.
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Turn that 8th into Rossi, Perfetti or Lundell and that’s a win in my books. Although it creates a big problem at centre ice. Reinhart is an RW.
I really like the RW spot after that trade though, but we’d be asking Backlund to be a #1 and Bennett to be a #2 next season...which whatever, so how it works out.
Play Reinhart on the RW and move Lindholm to the center.
Lindholm and Backlund the top two centers.
Move Tkachuk up to play with them.
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KK produced 26 of his 36 points in the first half of the season where his most consistent linemates were Marner and Tavares or Nylander and Matthews. When he got shifted to play in the bottom 6, his production dropped significantly.
KK scream leech to me, while AM looks like a play driving piece moving forward. KK's "track record" is really just built on the fact that he got to the league one year quicker than Mang.
Still, just because one GM is willing to pay a 1st for KK, we shouldn’t assume the Flames can get a 1st for AM. Who else would be willing to do that? Not suggesting it should be considered a closed book, but what other team looks like they would give up their 1st for Mangiapane? Where is the fit?
I would like to see if Ottawa would trade #3 for Tkachuk.
Draft Byfield or Stutzle.
Add a franchise #1 center into the organization that has the speed and skill needed.
Tkachuk spends too much energy and time in the playoffs trying to be an aggitator instead of focusing on putting up points. Isnt doing anything more than Gaudreau to help win in the playoffs.
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Still, just because one GM is willing to pay a 1st for KK, we shouldn’t assume the Flames can get a 1st for AM. Who else would be willing to do that? Not suggesting it should be considered a closed book, but what other team looks like they would give up their 1st for Mangiapane? Where is the fit?
New Jersey needs quality Left Wingers. They have the 18th and Vancouver's pick.
Mang for the 18th looks like a good deal for New Jersey in my eyes.
Edmonton SHOULD jump on giving up the 14th for Mang. Mang would be perfect for their team. Can score and is a strong 200 foot player? Get him on a long-term value contract and he's banging out huge points playing with McDavid or Draisaitl.
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I don't think the difference between Monahan and Reinhart is even close to the #8 pick. Maybe if we included our pick at #19?
Excluding last year's season as the anomaly, Monahan has averaged 58.25 points since 2015-2016. Reinhart has averaged 50.8 in that stretch.
I think you just turned this into a bad trade for Calgary. I rather keep the center than trade up 11 slots to get a winger that is a worse player imo. In order to get your stars to look comparable you remove a 82pt season from Monahan?
I don't think the difference between Monahan and Reinhart is even close to the #8 pick. Maybe if we included our pick at #19?
Excluding last year's season as the anomaly, Monahan has averaged 58.25 points since 2015-2016. Reinhart has averaged 50.8 in that stretch.
Yeah but let's take advantage of Buffalo being Buffalo.
Also, C vs. RW.
...but yeah, neither of them are guys I'd be going crazy for. I don't think I'm into that trade if we include our 19th.
Monahan for the 8th and 38th? I'd look long at that. Brings about the culture change, and deals with some expansion draft risk at the same time. I would think 8th + 38th + maybe their 2021 2nd round pick isn't a bad deal for either team.
Outside of grabbing top picks for Monahan, the only other way I'm really interested in moving Monahan is if we add to him and go get Barkov...who undoubtedly isn't available.
I would like to see if Ottawa would trade #3 for Tkachuk.
Draft Byfield or Stutzle.
Add a franchise #1 center into the organization that has the speed and skill needed.
Tkachuk spends too much energy and time in the playoffs trying to be an aggitator instead of focusing on putting up points. Isnt doing anything more than Gaudreau to help win in the playoffs.
I’ll go out on a limb and say this won’t happen.
Ottawa’s ownership held the purse strings pretty tight before the pandemic. I don’t see any scenario where they would trade a likely impact player on an entry level deal for one that they would have to qualify at, 10 is it?, in two years time.
I think you just turned this into a bad trade for Calgary. I rather keep the center than trade up 11 slots to get a winger that is a worse player imo. In order to get your stars to look comparable you remove a 82pt season from Monahan?
Yeah, it's not a trade I'd make personally.
I just don't think Buffalo sees the upgrade from Reinhart to Monahan equivalent to giving up the #8.
I don't think the difference between Monahan and Reinhart is even close to the #8 pick. Maybe if we included our pick at #19?
Excluding last year's season as the anomaly, Monahan has averaged 58.25 points since 2015-2016. Reinhart has averaged 50.8 in that stretch.
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Yeah, it's not a trade I'd make personally.
I just don't think Buffalo sees the upgrade from Reinhart to Monahan equivalent to giving up the #8.
I don’t think Reinhart is really a target for me from Buffalo unless they are going after Monahan and Gaudreau with Reinhart, Dman, 8th and Cozens being in the return.
I prefer to target Cozens because he is also a C and is likely ready to play in the NHL next year.
If Rossi somehow was available at 8 I would consider a deal around that pick if I am Calgary. If Monahan goes out I want a center coming back.
I don't think the difference between Monahan and Reinhart is even close to the #8 pick. Maybe if we included our pick at #19?
Excluding last year's season as the anomaly, Monahan has averaged 58.25 points since 2015-2016. Reinhart has averaged 50.8 in that stretch.
Remove Reinhardt's 65 point season last year and he is averaging 47.25 points per season. You can't discount one guys big year and not the other guys. Monahan is 1 year older and has scored 156 points more. Not even comparable, I think Buffalo would have to add more than the 8th for Sean.
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A real finisher. Nice shot that seems to find its way through traffic and he is Johnny on the spot to clear up garbage. Reminds me of a right shooting Sean Monahan.
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A real finisher. Nice shot that seems to find its way through traffic and he is Johnny on the spot to clear up garbage. Reminds me of a right shooting Sean Monahan.
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New Jersey needs quality Left Wingers. They have the 18th and Vancouver's pick.
Mang for the 18th looks like a good deal for New Jersey in my eyes.
Edmonton SHOULD jump on giving up the 14th for Mang. Mang would be perfect for their team. Can score and is a strong 200 foot player? Get him on a long-term value contract and he's banging out huge points playing with McDavid or Draisaitl.
You never know, it could happen, but I think the Flames would want a body coming back; which is why I would target Josh Anderson.
I would take 8th+Reinhart for Monahan, but only if we are also trading Gaudreau and that package contains a potential #1C candidate. Otherwise we lose.
For Buffalo, the value might not be quite right for them, but no doubt in my mind Monahan is the best centre "available" right now, so if that's the position they want to shore up they are going to have to pay.
For comparison, there are Minny fans offering 9th overall + Beckman (or even Brodin) for Danault. Monahan >>> Danault.
