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dammage79 · 08-19-2020, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Cobra

You should be weary about Patrick’s condition.

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And yet, I'm not.

dammage79 · 08-19-2020, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I say again.....oooooooooooooooooof.

Good lord help us all.

Honestly makes no sense to me. It made me so irrationally upset. Just endless questions of "but why?" From so many different angles. Only makes sense if there's more to it.

Flash Walken · 08-19-2020, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Honestly makes no sense to me. It made me so irrationally upset. Just endless questions of "but why?" From so many different angles. Only makes sense if there's more to it.

Maybe Luke Adam is included in the deal?

I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop!

Roof-Daddy · 08-19-2020, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

Honestly makes no sense to me. It made me so irrationally upset. Just endless questions of "but why?" From so many different angles. Only makes sense if there's more to it.

I think there will be big changes this off season....but now I'm ill just thinking about it.

Bonded · 08-19-2020, 01:28 PM

If the Flames traded Monahan for Ristolainen I would probably rage quit for a season.

dammage79 · 08-19-2020, 01:29 PM

Oh, and around the same time, the Sabres fired Botterill and hired their new GM, who somewhere at some point before he became the GM said Monahan was a guy he wanted on the team.

PepsiFree · 08-19-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dammage79

If youre talking about when this rumor was given to me , it was this June.

Well, I can't buy it as being a current conversation. Burke himself said Chris Snow was adamantly against trading for Ristolainen when he was the analytics guy. Now he's the Assistant GM and they're suddenly going to listen to him less?

But hey, dumber things have happened. I'll put both feet in the "fire Treliving" pool if that one-for-one deal comes true this summer. What a disaster.

Monahammer · 08-19-2020, 01:30 PM

I refuse to believe Monahan for Ristolainen was seriously entertained by anyone in our club. If so they all deserve to be fired immediately.

Flash Walken · 08-19-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Well, I can't buy it as being a current conversation. Burke himself said Chris Snow was adamantly against trading for Ristolainen when he was the analytics guy. Now he's the Assistant GM and they're suddenly going to listen to him less?

But hey, dumber things have happened. I'll put both feet in the "fire Treliving" pool if that one-for-one deal comes true this summer. What a disaster.

I guess Snow must've been in the bathroom when they signed James Neal.

dammage79 · 08-19-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Well, I can't buy it as being a current conversation. Burke himself said Chris Snow was adamantly against trading for Ristolainen when he was the analytics guy. Now he's the Assistant GM and they're suddenly going to listen to him less?

But hey, dumber things have happened. I'll put both feet in the "fire Treliving" pool if that one-for-one deal comes true this summer. What a disaster.

Honestly, I hate it, but its current. You don't have to buy that but I've also sat on this until today since early June. Makes for a conversation I suppose.

Like what more would the Sabres have to add. What more do the Flames have to add to get a new young Center and Risto out of this trade scenario?

Erick Estrada · 08-19-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I'd rather trade meager futures for a Duchene or Johansen and add them to Monahan and keep trying to win, or just deal Monahan for futures and rebuild rather than swap deck chairs on the good ship Flame-tanic.

If you think Duchene or Johansen are worth meager futures then be prepared to accept meager futures for Monahan in a trade. I don't think there's a lot of teams salivating at the chance to add Monahan for their top futures. This is why it's highly likely the changes revolve around sending out Gaudreau and moving in a replacement winger or two.

The Cobra · 08-19-2020, 01:34 PM

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I guess Snow must've been in the bathroom when they signed James Neal.

Neal’s advanced stats actually graded out fine IIRC.

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Roof-Daddy · 08-19-2020, 01:34 PM

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If you think Duchene or Johansen are worth meager futures then be prepared to accept meager futures for Monahan in a trade. I don't think there's a lot of teams salivating at the chance to add Monahan for their top futures. This is why it's highly likely the changes revolve around sending out Gaudreau and moving in a replacement winger or two.

I am starting to prepare myself for bitter disappointment, believe me.

dammage79 · 08-19-2020, 01:36 PM

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Neal’s advanced stats actually graded out fine IIRC.

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And now we know how useful advanced stats are to team building....

Winsor_Pilates · 08-19-2020, 01:45 PM

What could Montreal offer for Monahan?
They need scoring badly and probably don't expect playoffs for a few years anyway. A proven regular season goal scorer would fit them well.

Roof-Daddy · 08-19-2020, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

What could Montreal offer for Monahan?
They need scoring badly and probably don't expect playoffs for a few years anyway. A proven regular season goal scorer would fit them well.

Montreal already has Danault, Suzuki, Domi and Kotkaniemi at C.

Dragomir · 08-19-2020, 01:50 PM

I will miss Monahan the most from the “old core”, the guy really tried and I respect that.

Winsor_Pilates · 08-19-2020, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bax

A dream summer?

We wouldn’t even be in the playoffs this year or last if we didn’t have Gaudreau and Monahan. You think our offense is anemic now? Wait until those guys are gone.

You call it upside, the Oilers call it “hope”

I'd trade making the playoffs to have a Petterson, Quinn Houghes, Aho, Matthews, McKinnon, McDavid.

Oilers are just 1 example and a team who did it wrong.
There are many other teams getting superstar talent through the draft who will surpass the Flames quickly (if they haven't already).

I'm tired of being meh for 3 decades

Roof-Daddy · 08-19-2020, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I'd trade making the playoffs to have a Petterson, Quinn Houghes, Aho, Matthews, McKinnon, McDavid.

Oilers are just 1 example and a team who did it wrong.
There are many other teams getting superstar talent through the draft who will surpass the Flames quickly (if they haven't already).

I'm tired of being meh for 3 decades

Agreed. Making the playoffs is only fun if you have a chance at winning. When you get completely outclassed and knocked out in round 1 every year it starts to wear thin.

Vinny01 · 08-19-2020, 02:10 PM

Monahan for Ristolinen

Gaudreau, Kylington for Couturier, Ghost, 2nd

I doubt either deal was that close to happening but I also trust that both Husky and Damage did not fabricate those and heard them from legit sources. Likely more to each deal but funny how one looks horrible and the other looks amazing.

I would be shocked if Monahan is traded. He is our top C and we are not upgrading at that position by moving him most likely. We also hear about how Monahan played a huge role in helping Lucic regain his confidence this year. He is a leader on this team no doubt.