06-05-2020, 12:35 PM
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#1981
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Some good news is that the cyclist who was caught on film aggressively taking posters away from a young child (probably 10 or 11 years old) doing something kind, trying to raise awareness in the form of George Floyd posters may have been identified, though not confirmed yet by the police. They have made progress though according to an interview on CNN and may have an official update this weekend. If Twitter is correct, he's - drum roll please - an ex cop!!
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06-05-2020, 12:35 PM
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#1982
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Is this really we were are? Defending Candace Owens? The same Candace Owens who defended Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany as being not entirely bad? The same Candace Owens whose anti-Muslim rhetoric literally inspired a mass-murder? The same Candace Owens who used her platform to advance the conspiracy theory -- without any evidence -- that mail bombs being sent to Democratic representatives were a left-wing plot to make Trump supporters look bad? That Candace Owens? Really?
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06-05-2020, 12:37 PM
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#1983
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Is this really we were are? Defending Candace Owens? The same Candace Owens who defended Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany as being not entirely bad? The same Candace Owens whose anti-Muslim rhetoric literally inspired a mass-murder? The same Candace Owens who used her platform to advance the conspiracy theory -- without any evidence -- that mail bombs being sent to Democratic representatives were a left-wing plot to make Trump supporters look bad? That Candace Owens? Really?
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From accusations of being a race traitor? Yes.
From accusations of being generally horrible and having awful opinions that should probably just be ignored, and not even rebutted? No.
But if you do want to engage with her, it's not okay to suggest that her skin colour makes it less acceptable for her to believe something. That is, inherently, a horrible position to try to take.
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06-05-2020, 12:38 PM
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#1984
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Candace Owens in the last month or so has:
- Downplayed the murder of Ahmaud Arbery
- Said Central Park Karen who called the cops on the guy birding was in the right
- Called out George Floyd
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06-05-2020, 12:40 PM
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#1985
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
not actually engaging with her points (which in this case seem fairly easy to rebut).
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Have you heard of Candace Owens before today? I've been involved in discussion about Candace Owens for years unlike everyone jumping to her defense. This is not even really a hot take from her, lines up exactly with her stance. I was under the impression that the video had be sufficiently rebutted.
No worries, I'll take a permanent vacation from this thread and let the Canadians hash it out on the appropriate use of the word thug.
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06-05-2020, 12:42 PM
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#1986
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Lifetime In Suspension
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One of the few minority posters bullied out of the thread by a couple white guys policing race. Great job boys. Little on the nose don’t you think?
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06-05-2020, 12:44 PM
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#1987
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Originally Posted by Acey
Have you heard of Candace Owens before today? I've been involved in discussion about Candace Owens for years unlike everyone jumping to her defense. This is not even really a hot take from her, lines up exactly with her stance.
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Yes, I was aware of her. I mostly ignore her, just like I do the other obnoxious people on the far right. She seems genuinely awful... And George Floyd, apparently, held a pregnant woman at gunpoint. You still don't get to kneel on a suspect's neck until he's dead. Candace Owens is an awful person. You still shouldn't call her a race traitor.
And no, I'm not suggesting that there's any equivalency of degree of badness in any of those actions. But is it really that hard to understand that the target of your ire being a bad person doesn't give you license to do or say horrible things to or about them? In the context of this thread, that's a tough message to get across?
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No worries, I'll take a permanent vacation from this thread and let the Canadians hash it out on the appropriate use of the word thug.
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I hope you don't. I've disagreed with a few of the things you've said, and agreed with others, but I do think you've added a lot of value to the discussion overall, and obviously there aren't a whole lot of people who can speak first hand about their experiences being African-American in this thread.
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06-05-2020, 12:44 PM
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#1988
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06-05-2020, 12:45 PM
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#1989
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06-05-2020, 12:49 PM
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#1990
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What a strong, tough man going after teenage girls like that. Christ.
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06-05-2020, 12:52 PM
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#1991
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
Yes, I was aware of her. I mostly ignore her, just like I do the other obnoxious people on the far right. She seems genuinely awful... And George Floyd, apparently, held a pregnant woman at gunpoint. You still don't get to kneel on a suspect's neck until he's dead. Candace Owens is an awful person. You still shouldn't call her a race traitor.
And no, I'm not suggesting that there's any equivalency of degree of badness in any of those actions. But is it really that hard to understand that the target of your ire being a bad person doesn't give you license to do or say horrible things to or about them? In the context of this thread, that's a tough message to get across?
I hope you don't. I've disagreed with a few of the things you've said, and agreed with others, but I do think you've added a lot of value to the discussion overall, and obviously there aren't a whole lot of people who can speak first hand about their experiences being African-American in this thread.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Candace Owens in the last month or so has:
- Downplayed the murder of Ahmaud Arbery
- Said Central Park Karen who called the cops on the guy birding was in the right
- Called out George Floyd
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Yup. Candace Owens' entire shtick is that black people should be better than they are and if they are losing it's because they suck, not because of any systematic racism. Always victim blaming. She's trying the be the tough love mom. So this falls right into her wheelhouse that Floyd ended up on the ground because he sucks. Yeah he shouldn't have been killed and the cop should be charged for murder but that doesn't exclude that fact that he sucks and got himself on the ground.
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06-05-2020, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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Background on this:
Yesterday the authorities in DC released the following statement after they were accused of tear gassing peaceful protesters so Bunkerbaby Trump could have his little strongman photo op at the church:
The US Park Police says its officers did not deploy tear gas at Lafayette Park, but acknowledges using "smoke canisters and pepper balls," that contain a chemical designed to irritate the eyes."
The statement, as you can imagine, were absolutely eviscerated and widely-mocked online. The best response I saw was, "You can only call it tear gas if it comes from the Têar Region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling fascism."
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06-05-2020, 12:54 PM
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#1993
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
One of the few minority posters bullied out of the thread by a couple white guys policing race. Great job boys. Little on the nose don’t you think?
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Hot take. Piping hot.
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06-05-2020, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Background on this:
Yesterday the authorities in DC released the following statement after they were accused of tear gassing peaceful protesters so Bunkerbaby Trump could have his little strongman photo op at the church:
The US Park Police says its officers did not deploy tear gas at Lafayette Park, but acknowledges using "smoke canisters and pepper balls," that contain a chemical designed to irritate the eyes."
The statement, as you can imagine, were absolutely eviscerated and widely-mocked online. The best response I saw was, "You can only call it tear gas if it comes from the Têar Region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling fascism."
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LOL...perfect.
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06-05-2020, 12:56 PM
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#1995
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Candace Owens is a sociopath who is well aware that there is a massive appetite from racist ring wingers to have a black person spouting their talking points. She is the black version of Ann Coulter. Be as controversial as possible and line her own pockets with millions of dollars. If there is a hell she would have a fast pass skip the line bracelet.
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06-05-2020, 12:57 PM
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#1996
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
See, you say "no real change", but apparently Minneapolis is about to disband its police force. That's real change. I mean, it's not necessarily GOOD change... but, you know. Change.
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The City of Los Angeles has re-allocated a portion ($150m) of the LAPD budget as well.
edit: that 150m is being invested into minority communities
Last edited by Crown Royal; 06-05-2020 at 01:08 PM.
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06-05-2020, 12:57 PM
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#1997
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06-05-2020, 12:58 PM
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#1998
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Background on this:
Yesterday the authorities in DC released the following statement after they were accused of tear gassing peaceful protesters so Bunkerbaby Trump could have his little strongman photo op at the church:
The US Park Police says its officers did not deploy tear gas at Lafayette Park, but acknowledges using "smoke canisters and pepper balls," that contain a chemical designed to irritate the eyes."
The statement, as you can imagine, were absolutely eviscerated and widely-mocked online. The best response I saw was, "You can only call it tear gas if it comes from the Têar Region of France. Otherwise it's just sparkling fascism."
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Not to mention that the CDC classifies pepper agents as a type of tear gas.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachels.../#68d8752c1b69
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06-05-2020, 01:02 PM
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#1999
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Last night I posted on Facebook that anyone who considers him or herself to be a "good cop" on the Buffalo PD should make a statement by resigning. How could they live with themselves knowing they're part of an organization like that? It never occurred to me that the officers would resign not as a form of protest but as a show of support of their jackbooted fascist colleagues. WTF
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06-05-2020, 01:04 PM
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#2000
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Originally Posted by MissTeeks
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Oh no! Now who's going to go around knocking down senior citizens?
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