A person losing an eye, sustaining a spinal injury, having a cardiac event or dying as a result of police action is not.
There are direct social costs and cultural shockwaves as a result of police escalating violence against civilians. Best Buy having to file an insurance claim to replace stock and glass is not even in the same universe.
And the point he was making was that the employees aren't covered by insurance. And employees can't just start working again in a store that destroyed.
I know this is going to sounded terrible, but I don't think the situation will ever change. The country was founded on ideals that created a perpetual feedback loop of economic and racial inequality.
Capitalism only works if there is a gap between the rich and poor, and unfortunately black people were born into America poor from the very beginning. The only way this gets fixed is with a complete revolution and wealth redistribution which seem impossible.
Forever is a long time. It still sucks but it's only been 50 years since equal rights. I'm still hopeful.
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And the point he was making was that the employees aren't covered by insurance. And employees can't just start working again in a store that destroyed.
Literally every one of his examples was framed around a forever scenario; eg. arson. I'm not going to dispute that there would be downtime, but a week or so is not forever.
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Insurance justifies theft?
Peaceful protest is ok. Marching down the streets, sit ins, etc is fine
Rioting and looting is not. I can’t believe you’re forgiving and condoning it
The tweet does not forgive nor condone looting, it is stating that if you are hung up on those things and tuning out the Police Brutality on display at a police brutality protest you need to rethink things.
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The tweet does not forgive nor condone looting, it is stating that if you are hung up on those things and tuning out the Police Brutality on display at a police brutality protest you need to rethink things.
I’m not addressing the tweet, I’m addressing your response that theft, vandalism, and damage is ok because of insurance. Brutal take.
Literally every one of his examples was framed around a forever scenario; eg. arson. I'm not going to dispute that there would be downtime, but a week or so is not forever.
The tweet does not forgive nor condone looting, it is stating that if you are hung up on those things and tuning out the Police Brutality on display at a police brutality protest you need to rethink things.
I too am incapable of having two thoughts in my head at the same time. Makes going through life very difficult.
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Literally every one of his examples was framed around a forever scenario; eg. arson. I'm not going to dispute that there would be downtime, but a week or so is not forever.
Some of those bricks and mortar stores are not going to rebuild. Inner cities are already a tough sell for investment, combine that with how bricks and mortar stores were already on the decline.
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Some of those bricks and mortar stores are not going to rebuild. Inner cities are already a tough sell for investment, combine that with how bricks and mortar stores were already on the decline.
Even the stores that will re-open will be closed for months. A week or two? Yeah, no.
Two white women taga a store while a black woman tells her to stop. One of them also flips the bird while walking away. They're obviously not out there to support the cause but to start some ####.
I can't stand the white savior approach that some of these people are taking. Offer support, walk with those affected. But most importantly - shut up and listen. The fact is that the looting can distract from the valid message being put forth. I makes it worse as it ultimately gives ignorant people a feeling of correctness in stating that those populations most impacted by police brutality and by the criminal justice industry did something to bring it on themselves.
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Do you literally think money just grows on ####ing trees?
Not to mention there’s a thing called a deductible too.
A black retired firefighter in Minneapolis had his about to open sports bar destroyed. He poured his savings into a business in his community and some white ####### Antifa loser destroys it in the name of social justice. Oh well though, insurance amirite? No biggie he’ll be back on his feet in no time.
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Not to mention there’s a thing called a deductible too.
A black retired firefighter in Minneapolis had his about to open sports bar destroyed. He poured his savings into a business in his community and some white ####### Antifa loser destroys it in the name of social justice. Oh well though, insurance amirite? No biggie he’ll be back on his feet in no time.
I posted this several hundred posts ago and still have not received a satisfactory response, despite people continuing to support, or at least excuse, the rioting and looting.
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I'm not sure exactly how smashing up storefronts does anything positive. The response, "well, peaceful protesting doesn't seem to have fixed the problem either" is not really a counter-argument. You actually need to explain why this strategy is going to help advance the cause. Who pays for the damage caused? The community as a whole. Whose storefronts are those? Do they belong to police officers? Hell, I'd be surprised if a bunch of them weren't owned by African Americans or immigrant families. What end goal is served by hurting these people?
Again, the initial reaction to this event was cynicism - "I bet they'll just get off easy". Instead, they've been fired and the Mayor is hell-bent on seeing the person who actually committed the act thrown in prison. It seems to me that the best catalyst for change would be to have every eye in the country - including those belonging to Police officers - fixed on that rather unexpected development. That is a message - " take care, officers, because if you treat the life of your suspect with recklessness or indifference, your own life might very soon be ruined". I don't know what message you think rioting sends.
I continue to await an explanation.
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Not to mention there’s a thing called a deductible too.
A black retired firefighter in Minneapolis had his about to open sports bar destroyed. He poured his savings into a business in his community and some white ####### Antifa loser destroys it in the name of social justice. Oh well though, insurance amirite? No biggie he’ll be back on his feet in no time.
It sucks that he lost everything he had worked for, and I disagree with psycnet when he says that the looting and arson isn't a big deal. But you lose me when you name check Antifa. Were "they" even involved?
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It sucks that he lost everything he had worked for, and I disagree with psycnet when he says that the looting and arson isn't a big deal. But you lose me when you name check Antifa. Were "they" even involved?
There was a MN state official on CNN (or MSNBC) earlier that stated they had tracked known antifa members to Minneapolis....though i have no idea what that actually means. Some were arrested as well.
Do the FBI have files on those associated with them? Is there an actual "group" you join or is it just a bunch of extremists they label as all being similar?
I posted this several hundred posts ago and still have not received a satisfactory response, despite people continuing to support, or at least excuse, the rioting and looting.
I continue to await an explanation.
Looting can #### off and die. Looting literally never solved anything. Rioting is another story, I can understand and accept it without outright supporting it. I can't honestly say that rioting doesn't change things. It sparked a change in LA. This isn't like the first time this happened and people went straight to rioting. People are angry and this happens. I understand that unfortunately looting and rioting are too often intrinsically entwined. But if I was living in this situation, and kept seeing it over and over again, and the same placating was happening every time with no change, I'd want to pick up a brick too.
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