05-31-2020, 11:11 AM
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#741
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Red Deer
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Originally Posted by DownInFlames
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From her Twitter account:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1267088731753680898
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05-31-2020, 11:14 AM
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#742
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by transplant99
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These types of videos are great but they are also show people on both sides who aren't going to be the people escalate the situation.
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05-31-2020, 11:15 AM
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#743
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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05-31-2020, 11:16 AM
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#744
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Businesses are insured.
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Looting =/= Protesting.
Nothing can justify looting
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05-31-2020, 11:19 AM
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#745
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Franchise Player
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Free hugs? That guy got the rona for sure.
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05-31-2020, 11:25 AM
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#746
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
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Extremely dangerous. Antifa is not exactly organized. So, how do they qualify people as antifa?
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05-31-2020, 11:26 AM
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#747
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross
Extremely dangerous. Antifa is not exactly organized. So, how do they qualify people as part of antifa?
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"Anyone I don't like" obvs. You know who else outlawed Antifa?
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Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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05-31-2020, 11:26 AM
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#748
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Craig McTavish' Merkin
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Two white women taga a store while a black woman tells her to stop. One of them also flips the bird while walking away. They're obviously not out there to support the cause but to start some ####.
https://twitter.com/user/status/1267101707596632066
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05-31-2020, 11:28 AM
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#749
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
"Anyone I don't like" obvs. You know who else outlawed Antifa?
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Don't remind me.
Mass arrests and more police brutality to continue.
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05-31-2020, 11:34 AM
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#750
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AltaGuy has a magnetic personality and exudes positive energy, which is infectious to those around him. He has an unparalleled ability to communicate with people, whether he is speaking to a room of three or an arena of 30,000.
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: At le pub...
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The good old Antifa boogeyman.
The looting and damage sucks. Still not the point though, people. How many of those here who are focused on the looting were supporters of BLM or Colin Kaepernick? Unfortunately there is little to no overlap, although there should be.
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05-31-2020, 11:40 AM
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#751
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Participant 
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Originally Posted by Bent Wookie
Your stats are way off base.
I think thats part of the issue some on the board are pointing out to you and pepsi. You present yourselves as having some insider knowledge or educated opinion. But in reality, you cherry pick whatever information you need to support your already formed opinion.
And you side stepped the question because it makes you feel uncomfortable to challenge your belief.
Someone made a comment earlier in the thread that I think many should rethink - its ok to be outraged by what happened to Floyd, and also be outraged by the riots. Both are senseless.
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I can’t speak for afc, but I’ve made pretty clear that my opinions are my opinions, gained from who I know and what I’ve learned, and I’ve been happy to share and discuss that. If you think they’re cherry-picked, I don’t really know what to do with you, opinions are born from what you learn, that’s how these things work, and the idea that I, as a white person, had pre-formed opinions about just how hard it is to be black in America, and not opinions radically changed and formed by living there, forming real relationships, and trying my best to just listen and learn more because I genuinely loved the people around me (and that’s what you do when you care about your friends or if you’re just a good neighbour, you just talk to them and learn about them, is this different for you?), is funny. You don’t have to have an agenda to care about people different from yourself.
I don’t think you need to have lived in the US and actually have listened to what it’s like to be black in America first hand from those who have experienced it to have an opinion on this as a white person. That’s where mine comes from, doesn’t make it better or worse, it’s just my own, and I’m going to be as passionate about it as I feel like. But to dismiss it as cherry-picked to support pre-formed opinions? To that, I don’t know what to say. If actually listening to people’s experiences is “cherry picking information” when you’re later relaying those experiences, I’m not sure how stories are supposed to be shared and how we’re supposed to learn from each other.
As far as the riots go, I would just recommend people keep their outrage in perspective and consider the context. Nobody is outraged at just the murder of George Floyd on an individual level, that shows a complete misunderstanding of what’s going on here. Let’s open up the ears and listen and learn. It’s not “cherry picking” if you do, it’s actually how you understand the bigger issue.
There are business owners less upset about their business being destroyed than posters here. There are people will serious, life changing injuries less upset about what happened to them than posters here. These are the people in this, and they get it. If you’re more outraged by the riots than a business owner who lost his business to riots, ask yourself if you’re seeing the real issue.
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05-31-2020, 11:48 AM
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#752
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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“Racism in America is like dust in the air. It seems invisible — even if you’re choking on it — until you let the sun in. Then you see it’s everywhere.”
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
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05-31-2020, 11:55 AM
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#753
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Franchise Player
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The Chinese in Hong Kong have managed to protest for over a year every week. I wonder if Americans have the stomach for the same?
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05-31-2020, 12:03 PM
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#755
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by activeStick
The Chinese in Hong Kong have managed to protest for over a year every week. I wonder if Americans have the stomach for the same?
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The Chinese have been quite lenient to the protestors in HK. They worry about public image domestically and internationally since there is still these 2 systems concept. They want to bring Hong Kong people to their side.
The US does not have these concerns, if the protests go on for days we'll see mass deaths. The United States does not mess around. As you said, can Americans stomach that?
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05-31-2020, 12:04 PM
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#756
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by Yamer
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I think it is kind of one and the same. It's further abuse of power, and overuse of force. It's shining a light on the fact that police aren't trained to properly handle situations, and can't be counted on to react in ways that don't over use their force. It may be that they are trained in ways that encourage the opposite.
We are seeing it isn't all police and all departments, but the reactions like abusing media, pushing elderly to the ground, shooting bystanders with rubber bullets show that this isn't just a small issue, it seems to be part of the culture of some departments. And yes, it ultimately manifests in PoC bearing the brunt of it.
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05-31-2020, 12:06 PM
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#757
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
The Chinese have been quite lenient to the protestors in HK. They worry about public image domestically and internationally since there is still these 2 systems concept. They want to bring Hong Kong people to their side.
The US does not have these concerns, if the protests go on for days we'll see mass deaths. The United States does not mess around. As you said, can Americans stomach that?
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Tell that to the people they tossed out apartment building windows.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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05-31-2020, 12:11 PM
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#758
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzz
I think it is kind of one and the same. It's further abuse of power, and overuse of force. It's shining a light on the fact that police aren't trained to properly handle situations, and can't be counted on to react in ways that don't over use their force. It may be that they are trained in ways that encourage the opposite.
We are seeing it isn't all police and all departments, but the reactions like abusing media, pushing elderly to the ground, shooting bystanders with rubber bullets show that this isn't just a small issue, it seems to be part of the culture of some departments. And yes, it ultimately manifests in PoC bearing the brunt of it.
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Yeah, no one is focused on it. They're pointing to it as yet another example to add to the bucket.
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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05-31-2020, 12:16 PM
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#759
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Businesses are insured.
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Insurance doesnt pay the salaries to all those who lost their employment because there is no more work place....at a time when unemployment has never been higher.
Insurance doesnt supply the medications for those in the neighborhood who can no longer get what they need because the pharmacy is a pile of rubble.
Insurance doesnt offer the groceries to feed families that were able to walk to the supermarket before it became an inferno.
Setting buildings ablaze puts everyones lives in danger including those that have nothing to do with anything other than trying to serve their communities.
Violence accomplishes nothing other than further hurting the very people who these protests are supposed to be all about.
What a tone deaf comment.
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05-31-2020, 12:20 PM
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#760
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Tell that to the people they tossed out apartment building windows.
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They could have brought in the tanks and run the place over by now. Politics prevent China from burning HK to the ground and rebuilding it.
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