[Trade] Dreger & McKenzie of TSN: Toffoli traded to VAN for Madden, Schaller, and 2020 2nd

[ReinhartonD]

What I figure happened is Vancouver's slumlord ownership told Benning if this slide they're on continues and they miss the playoffs, he's done. He' fine to throw Madden into a deal because maybe they've heard he won't be signing with them anyway--he doesn't have to and can choose to be a free agent.

Even without that the picks are still an overpay because they don't have the cap room to sign Toffoli next year. I think he saw that Ferland's done (sadly--still have positive memories of him living rent free in Bieksa's head) and Boeser may be done for the rest of the regular season.

If we want Toffoli we can go after him after the season, but I'd rather take Markstrom off them--gives us what we need, and ensures they return to the mediocrity that is their norm.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I guess they're probably happy they didn't go long term with Boeser, though. Dude was already underperforming this season, and now he's about to make it 3 straight years without even hitting the 70 game mark.

Which is why they held out and didn't leap to pay him. Not every team is Toronto.

Originally Posted by ReinhartonD

If we want Toffoli we can go after him after the season, but I'd rather take Markstrom off them--gives us what we need, and ensures they return to the mediocrity that is their norm.

Goalies are voodoo, but I firmly believe Demko will end up being the better goalie between the two of them in a year or two.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

I also think their supposed cap issues are overblown

Sutter, Pearson, and Edler are off after next season when Peterson is up, that's 14m
Year after when hughes is up, Erickson, roussell, and beagle are done, that's 12m

So by season starting 2022, when those two big deals are added, only other current contracts are miller, horvat, myers, and ferland

Ferland based on his setback friday may be done with hockey as well sadly

Petterson and Hughes will be on new contracts in 21-22. Hughes burned his first year after playing late in 18-19 season.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Than Toffoli re-signing? I'd love to hear your logic on that. I'd be very very shocked if this trade wasn't made with Benning having an idea one way or another what Toffoli was thinking.


Now, the type of contract he signs here might be a better idea to focus on. Benning has never been great at that part of the job.





Just after getting re-signed and having our pipe line of prospects being lauded as one of the best. For all of Benning's faults he has done a great job on that side of things. Do I like giving up Madden? Of course not. Can I live with it if Toffoli is a Canuck next season? Yes.

Benning to Blake: “Can you ask Tyler if he’d be interested in signing with the Canucks long term?”
Blake to Benning: “Yep, he says he absolutely would be and for cheap too “

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Hughes is up after next season, not the season after. They have to get him and Pettersson signed the same year. Unless they bridge at least one of them (which is just kicking the cap problem down the road a couple of years), that's going to cost about $20M against the cap. They're boned.

Seriously, go to capfriendly and try to make a team for next year in an $82.5M cap environment where they re-sign Toffoli (which will cost at least $5.5M for 5 years in the current market). It's possible... if Markstrom walks in UFA.

I guess they're probably happy they didn't go long term with Boeser, though. Dude was already underperforming this season, and now he's about to make it 3 straight years without even hitting the 70 game mark.

Odd definition of boned, having to many good players performing well and having to decide with one to let go.

Personally I consider being boned when you have signed players capped yourself out and they aren't performing

[Blaster86]

I mean, they usually get permission to talk to the player directly in this sort of thing, but yeah. We can pretend your little RP session is how it goes.

Can I be Blake? He's younger and cuter.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Hope Brad has something up his sleeve to counter.

Narrator: Brad didn't have anything up his sleeve to counter.

[I know, this has been used before, but it fits]

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Hughes is up after next season, not the season after. They have to get him and Pettersson signed the same year. Unless they bridge at least one of them (which is just kicking the cap problem down the road a couple of years), that's going to cost about $20M against the cap. They're boned.

Seriously, go to capfriendly and try to make a team for next year in an $82.5M cap environment where they re-sign Toffoli (which will cost at least $5.5M for 5 years in the current market). It's possible... if Markstrom walks in UFA.

I guess they're probably happy they didn't go long term with Boeser, though. Dude was already underperforming this season, and now he's about to make it 3 straight years without even hitting the 70 game mark.

I must have read hughes wrong, thought because he was 10.2 he had 1 more

Still dont see much of an issue year after next though

For next year, I believe ferland will have to walk away sadly due to the concussion issues, so toffoli could essentially replace his 3.5 and add another 2m to get to your 5.5, which is very doable, even with keeping markstrom

Disagree on boeser, he was on pace for 66 points over 82, and that's with a 3% drop in his shooting percentage, which came mostly early this season when he was recovering from his injury at the end of last, for a guy who has what's scouted at an elite shot. If he was up at 12% of last year, which isnt that far out there considering over his first 2 seasons he averaged over 14, hes close to 75 over 82, and the injuries dont seem to be the kind that keep reoccurring, so I wouldn't label him injury prone

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

I mean, they usually get permission to talk to the player directly in this sort of thing, but yeah. We can pretend your little RP session is how it goes.

Can I be Blake? He's younger and cuter.

Toffoli doesn’t have any trade protection. Why would Blake risk a deal falling through? Vancouver isn’t dumb enough to not believe that Toffoli will test UFA?

Surely the Canucks have a shot to keep him if they can make cap room though.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Toffoli doesn’t have any trade protection. Why would Blake risk a deal falling through? Vancouver isn’t dumb enough to not believe that Toffoli will test UFA?

Surely the Canucks have a shot to keep him if they can make cap room though.

The deal may be dependent on getting that confirmation from the player.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Dion

http://mayorsmanor.com/2013/05/tyler...nsfw-nickname/

Top Titty Tyler Toffoli?

Yeah we could have used some of that!

[Flash Walken]

I'm waffling on whether I think Tanev will be moved

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

The deal may be dependent on getting that confirmation from the player.

What confirmation is going to be given to Vancouver today? Do they have $6 million plus x multiple years on the table already?

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

What confirmation is going to be given to Vancouver today? Do they have $6 million plus x multiple years on the table already?

That he'd be interested in re-signing in Vancouver.

Now, whether that means anything is unknown.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

I'm waffling on whether I think Tanev will be moved

I think he ends up a leaf, either this summer or before the deadline

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

isn't Luongo's 3 mill due in a year as well?

2 more seasons after this

They do get 3.3m off after next year though with sven done and Spooners buyout which I missed before

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

I think he ends up a leaf, either this summer or before the deadline

Yeah, I'm talking before the deadline.

[StAlbertFlame]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Somebody reads Calgarypuck!

https://twitter.com/user/status/1229576257743933440

In The Dome, should probably be giving you credit...Shouldn't they?

[Geeoff]

I might be in the minority here but I'm glad the Flames aren't targeting these rentals.

[t0rrent98]

Guess the Canucks were desperate to get a replacement as both boeser and Ferland are out. Boeser with a rib cartilage fracture out at least 3 weeks and Ferland likely out for the season.