[Rumour] TSN: Gio injury puts Brodie for RHS forward on hold. Bennett change of scenery

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Or you know maybe just having a child has caused some sleep deprivation which can affect on ice performance.

This board gets ugly fast when we lose.

This excuse is getting quite old. Almost every player in the NHL has gone through this. As have many of us on here.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Bennett's looked better than Gaudreau lately IMO. So what does that say about our team? Some of you here really underrate what he can bring and the potential he still has.

He's one of the only guys who plays with some grit who actually has some good puck skills. We're lacking grit. So trade him?

Hammer underrated a lot this year. Bennett's been underrated for the past couple years by many. Gaudreau massively overrated this year by many. I know those takes won't be popular but hey, can't agree with many of the takes in this thread.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This excuse is getting quite old. Almost every player in the NHL has gone through this. As have many of us on here.

And did it affect your daily performance? Doesn't matter if other NHLers have gone through it, it's Backlund first child no?

Not sure what your point is. If Backlund is having sleep deprivation it will be affecting his performance. That much is clear from the latest sleep research.

[mennoknight]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This excuse is getting quite old. Almost every player in the NHL has gone through this. As have many of us on here.

and all babies and all parenting experiences are exactly the same. Nobody has any idea what's going on with these dudes inside their head except them. If the coach does, he's certainly doing the right things to address it.

[mrdonkey]

Note to self: never sign anyone to play a top 6 role who just had a kid or may have a kid within the lifetime of the contract. Got it.

Sucks that other teams don’t have this problem, though.

[united]

One of the big issues with Bennett is discipline. While you admire his exuberance, he has yet to show an ability to channel his aggression properly as it relates to disciplined decision making.

Once again he leads the team in negative penalty differential at -0.96/60. The only two players on the team over -0.5/60 are Rinaldo and Stone. Even Backlund in this nightmare season of his is right at -0.5/60 for instance. The only other forward in the negative is Jankowski. (Frolik was even worse than Bennett, FWIW)

Whether you agree with it or not, one of the biggest parts of internal accountability teams employ relates to disciplined play and that is magnified when the poor discipline largely occurs in the offensive zone. The reality is Bennett isn’t going to be given an extended run in the top six until he shows he can play an aggressive but intelligent game. Once he does, he’ll undoubtedly enjoy a breakout season.

What a frustrating player. The clone of Benoit Pouliot.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Quit being such a donkey. I’m not trying to excuse Backlund’s play. My point was that the comment about him playing like he doesn’t want to be in Calgary when we know he likes it here was a frickin dumb comment. There can be other reasons why his play is a bit off.

[Rando]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

This excuse is getting quite old. Almost every player in the NHL has gone through this. As have many of us on here.

That's so dismissive.

I hope no one at your office brushed you aside when you were a parent of newborns.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Note to self: never sign anyone to play a top 6 role who just had a kid or may have a kid within the lifetime of the contract. Got it.

Sucks that other teams don’t have this problem, though.

That explains the size of Smitty's five hole. He had 4 of em.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Quit being such a donkey. I’m not trying to excuse Backlund’s play. My point was that the comment about him playing like he doesn’t want to be in Calgary when we know he likes it here was a frickin dumb comment. There can be other reasons why his play is a bit off.

Except that you explicitly tied his having a kid to his on-ice performance, twice. Backlund is not unique in his having a kid, and he spends half his time away from home anyway. The original take was extra spicy, and so was yours. Just own it.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by mennoknight

and all babies and all parenting experiences are exactly the same. Nobody has any idea what's going on with these dudes inside their head except them. If the coach does, he's certainly doing the right things to address it.

Why use it as an excuse then? As you point out, no one knows what is going on. Have other NHLers experienced the same protracted slump with their first child?

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Rando

That's so dismissive.

I hope no one at your office brushed you aside when you were a parent of newborns.

Dismissive of who? I’m not dismissive of Backlund who to my knowledge has never brought this up as an excuse.

Why make stuff up about sleep deprivation when we have no idea what is going on? Have you noticed a trend in NHLers performance after the birth of a child?

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Why use it as an excuse then? As you point out, no one knows what is going on. Have other NHLers experienced the same protracted slump with their first child?

Well when Talbot had his, he then played the best hockey of his career. (the one Oiler playoff season)
they call him dadbot and was watched in awe.

Being a parent of a newborn is a poor excuse or assumption for a players play.
It's worse than using "he must be injured" or "he doesn't want to be here any more"

[Stanley]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I agree so I hope he is moved to the East. I would just love a Josh Andersen for Sam Bennett trade. I think it helps both teams.

Bennett would make a good Hab

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Stanley

Bennett would make a good Hab

I don’t see a great trade match there.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

per insider trading:

Dreger: Bennett's name has been out there a long time.
Flames are not shopping him and don't want to trade him
Bennett may want a change of scenery. Wants to prove that he can be a top 6 forward

Dreger's that guy in your meetings who contributes nothing worthy, but never fails to speak up to ensure he isn't "too quiet" based on feedback he's received during past performance reviews.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by New Era

Bennett has been handed that ball in the past and proceeded to throw it into the 4th row of the stands. I wish people would get over Sam Bennett. He doesn't have the talent or brain to play in the top six - on any team - and doesn't show anything with any level of consistency. Move him for what you can get, and look toward the future. Sam Bennett doesn't have much of a future in the NHL.

This rebuttal is used so often, but never supported with evidence. Can someone point to a few of the game(s) where this has happened? Even just a general guess of which month where you thought it happened, or which opponent in which season, etc.


If/when it hasn't worked, is it 100% Bennett's fault?

[icecube]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Dreger's that guy in your meetings who contributes nothing worthy, but never fails to speak up to ensure he isn't "too quiet" based on feedback he's received during past performance reviews.

Dreklund

[Sylvanfan]

Well if you can't get Brodie signed or you don't want to sign him and keep him...you better be shopping him to get something back regardless of a Giordano injury or not.

This team is looking less and less like a playoff team every day, and they certainly are not looking like a team anyone would fear if they did make the playoffs.

Easy for me to say as I'm not toast if he doesn't make the playoffs like Trelving coudl be, so a longer term look may be less likely to happen.

I hope that ownership is willing to advise the GM that he is to take a longer term look at the organization and the assets, and allow him to reset things if needed. But the way the Flames and pretty much every Canadian team operates...I expect they will make poor short term decisions that they'll regret in 2-3 years time.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Bennett's been underrated for the past couple years by many.

I think it's more like way overrated by many from the start of the career and pretty much many have just moved on and accepted the fact that he is what he is on the bottom rung of the team. A change in scenery might do him and the Flames some good TBH. Regardless if Bennett does well in the playoffs in the previous 2 or 3 times, he's useless if the Flames don't get into the playoffs this year and the next. If Tre can get something for him now, it's better than nothing any time down the road.