[News] UPD: Friedman: Peters being officially removed as head coach is close

[Savvy27]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

TSN named two specific players by name that corroborated Aliu's story, so they aren't hiding.

Sorry, I'll be more specific. Nobody currently in the NHL is attaching their names to anything, but there are still allegations being published. The reporting done on the Aliu accusation was very well done.

[FanIn80]

I wonder of Peters decided to reward them going into the break by slapping down a bunch of rules and restrictions on them for their time off?

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Racki

Interesting. The team was on an absolute tear. Went into a spiral they still haven’t come out of since that time. What happened to this team?

As awful as all of this is, it could end up for the best. Treliving gets a free pass on a firing. The players aren't rewarded for quitting on a coach but get a new one anyway. A reset before the season is lost.

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by chedder

As awful as all of this is, it could end up for the best. Treliving gets a free pass on a firing. The players aren't rewarded for quitting on a coach but get a new one anyway. A reset before the season is lost.

I was thinking the same thing. The only person this will end up bad for is Peters.

[djsFlames]

Get it over with, Flames. The stories are only going to keep pouring in. Better that they not be about the current Flames head coach.

[krazycanuck]

Commodore on TSN 1260 in Edmonton. Interested to what he says about Peters.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by nik-

Sunflower topped the charts and it tore the dressing room apart.

I feel like that's a rap artist Peters could get behind.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Savvy27

Sorry, I'll be more specific. Nobody currently in the NHL is attaching their names to anything, but there are still allegations being published. The reporting done on the Aliu accusation was very well done.

For very good reason, I expect. The reason it took Aliu so long to come forward, and didn't actually do so until his playing days were done is the same reason why Babcock's antics were the stuff of rumours until only just the past week.

There is a conspiracy of silence in hockey that perpetuates abuse. With the new reports that Carolina's player leadership group took their complaints to the GM and it resulted in no action is a good indicator why it has been allowed to continue for so long.

[rohara66]

Originally Posted by krazycanuck

Commodore on TSN 1260 in Edmonton. Interested to what he says about Peters.

notes?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Remeber when we thought Peter's was supposed to be the perfect porridge to Hartley "too hot" style and Gully "too cold" style?

Man, those were some times.

He was.....for about 60 games.

It's becoming pretty clear why the wheels had fallen off.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Get it over with, Flames. The stories are only going to keep pouring in. Better that they not be about the current Flames head coach.

I'm 100 percent confident that the legal side of all this is going to take time. I'm sure if they had all their bases covered itd be done by now. Lawyers are gonna do their thing and nobody is gonna rush them.

[Erick Estrada]

Given the fact Peters wasn't popular in Carolina (or maybe anywhere he coached) it really does look like his act was maybe starting to wear thin with Flames players. Elliott Friedman kept leaving hints over the weeks saying stuff like the relationship between Peters and the players was tense. They have been playing so far below their level this season that you just got the feeling something wasn't right. I suppose we will see with him out of the picture if the team starts playing better that it's probably proof he had lost the team.

[oldschoolcalgary]

the legal path will have to run its course, but it seems like the Flames should be suspending him pending the completion of the investigative process...

seems like there is more than enough evidence to do that...can't imagine Peters behind the bench considering the information that has been coming out, especially with the Carolina sources

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

From a purely conspiratorial point of view, I wonder if Aliu was encouraged through a back-channel to comment? Did an unhappy player(s) on the Flames see the Babcock situation as an opportune time to light this fire?

Note that this has no reflection on the accuracy of Aliu's comments. I do not doubt his story or sincerity.

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Flames Fan, Ph.D.

From a purely conspiratorial point of view, I wonder if Aliu was encouraged through a back-channel to comment? Did an unhappy player(s) on the Flames see the Babcock situation as an opportune time to light this fire?

Note that this has no reflection on the accuracy of Aliu's comments. I do not doubt his story or sincerity.

Plot twist, it was Brad

[sureLoss]

on TSN LeBrun says Peters is getting paid around $2 million US per year and most NHL coaching contracts have an ethical clause.

He says teams are watching this because it could be precedent setting for future coach firings and whether the Flames are still on the hook for his salary.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by FanIn80

If I was the Flames, I would much rather have this evening’s news cycle be “Flames fire coach for racist and abusive conduct” instead of “Flames coach accused yesterday and today of racist and abusive conduct, team still undecided on course of action.”

This story and all its evidence is still going to be discussed over and over on all broadcasts, regardless of the headline attached to it... so it seems like a no-brainer to at least want to have the best headline you can get in your favour.

I believe that when allegations are made, there is nothing wrong with due process. Treliving is doing the right thing

He has made his first comments on behalf of the team, which were generally appropriate.

They are going to be as transparent as they can and they are not going to be commenting on every piece of information as it becomes available.

The team’s official and final position and detail on actions taken will be expressed when they are ready.

I don’t want to see the team pandering to headline writers. I do want to see them do the right thing.

[krazycanuck]

Originally Posted by rohara66

notes?

Commodore on TSN1260 in Edmonton just now:

-Retold the Babcock story in Anaheim and Detroit
-95% of the coaches he had he liked, Darryl Sutter included despite him being hard on him, he never crossed the line
-Says Babcock was a dick to everyone from front office to parking attendants
-He says 100% of players hes talked to appreciated what he said about Babcock
-He was encouraged to stay on top the Babcock hate by other peoples stories about Babcock
-Feels validated by all of the other stories coming out (ie Marner)
-The Babcock coaching tree (Peters) takes on many of the same qualities that Babcock does. Says that makes him sick to his stomach
-Says up until last week being under Babcock as an assistant was a good thing, now it's now
-Says Babcock thing is different than Peters thing, doesnt want to blame Babcock for what Peters did as much as he'd like to
-He says hes now the biggest leafs fans in the world after the move
-Says he can sense the cloud lifting over the leafs since babcock left in player interviews
-Thinks if more stories come out he might never get hired again, but thinks another owner or GM might hire him again based on his record
-Says babcock will try to hide his colors in the job interview but revert to old Babs
-Commie calls Peters quote disgusting, he doesnt know Aliu and doesnt recall ever playing with him
-in his opinion Peters is done and will get fired
-only reason he hasnt been fired is Flames are trying to be thorough to terminate the contract
-Says slim to none chance that Peters will ever coach again in NA. Would be shocked if he's on the bench tomorrow against Buffalo.

I was hoping he'd get more into his time with him as an assistant coach in Detroit.

[Vansmack]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

on TSN LeBrun says Peters is getting paid around $2 million US per year and most NHL coaching contracts have an ethical clause.

He says teams are watching this because it could be precedent setting for future coach firings and whether the Flames are still on the hook for his salary.

Even more reason for Tre and the Flames to get it right... Drag it out another 16 hours if it means the organization can actually put this behind them.

[taxbuster]

Sad, if true, for all involved.

Can't see how this falls on Tre - no one talks about this in reference checks (too much liability when talking about someone, even if it's true; especially in the US).

He might have heard Peters was hard-assed or something of that nature though that is pretty normal kind of talk, especially in coaching.

Ron Francis, for his part, may have disciplined Peters in a manner far short of firing. We have no idea and neither do the proponents of the issue. He might not have, too.

I'm guessing that late tonight an announcement will be made. At least of a temporary suspension if not a full change. They have a lot of due diligence to do, and many jurisdictions and stories involved. A mistake would be ... expensive, to say the least.