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Old 10-08-2019, 10:13 PM   #101
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Again, the crossbar is the deciding factor for a shot that goes into the net

The shoulders are the deciding factor for knocking a puck down to gain possession.

So on the first touch, the puck was below his shoulders, and for the 2nd the puck was contacted below the crossbar.

Toronto recently scored a similar goal where Spezza knocked the puck down to a teammate above the crossbar, which is legal.
I’d like to think Tkachuk was thinking all that as the play went on too.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:13 PM   #102
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Yeah. Tkchuck goal was after he quite obviously played it down with a high stick. Play should have been whistled down. No idea how it counted.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:15 PM   #103
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Yeah. Tkchuck goal was after he quite obviously played it down with a high stick. Play should have been whistled down. No idea how it counted.
because it wasn't whistled down...like the goal in Colorado last week

you can't go back on that, it would be like going back and saying "that should have been a penalty"

You can only review the last touch via video

and it was a ####ing insane goal...Ref/Bennett can EAD tonight
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:15 PM   #104
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because it wasn't whistled down...like the goal in Colorado last week
But it should have been whistled down. Just like Colorado last week.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:16 PM   #105
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It’s just crazy how polar opposite Tkachuk and Bennett are.


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Old 10-08-2019, 10:16 PM   #106
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Again, the crossbar is the deciding factor for a shot that goes into the net

The shoulders are the deciding factor for knocking a puck down to gain possession.

So on the first touch, the puck was below his shoulders, and for the 2nd the puck was contacted below the crossbar.

Toronto recently scored a similar goal where Spezza knocked the puck down to a teammate above the crossbar, which is legal.
If it happened like you say here, good goal for sure. But I’ve watched it a few times now and there is one look which clearly shows the puck above his shoulders.

But whatever. Reasonable people can disagree.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:16 PM   #107
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Incorrect. Rule 80 if you want to read the applicable rule. There should have been a whistle as soon as he touched the puck again.
Could you elaborate on your opinion?

Edit....just saw your response to AC.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:16 PM   #108
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We got a point because Mangiapane, Tkachuk and Backlund dominated the 2nd half of the game.

Kylington and Andersson were our best defenders.

Rittich had a great, but imperfect game.

Everyone else was absolute trash. It’s easy to trash Jankowski for his horrific play, Bennett for his awful penalty, Ryan for his general uselessness, but everyone outside of the 6 players listed above and Lucic for waking the team up was absolutely awful tonight.

1-1-1 is better than 0-3-0, which is where we could easily be.

I think Dallas is going to get destroyed by a huge game from the Flames.
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But it should have been whistled down. Just like Colorado last week.
and the refs shouldn't have changed the standard with 25 seconds left
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Because Tkachuk didn't score directly off a high stick, wouldn't the Kings have to challenge?
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:18 PM   #111
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Because Tkachuk didn't score directly off a high stick, wouldn't the Kings have to challenge?
they can't challenge that
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:19 PM   #112
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The highstick in the offensive zone leading to a goal is challengeable now, remember.

Obviously the Kings didn't think either touch was a highstick as both are reviewable now.

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I feel like the team looks a little stale. Some turnover every year can be a good thing. Zucker, Kadri and Brown coming in would have been great
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- Flames lucky to get a point after that horrific 1st period, didn’t deserve to win the game anyway

- Tkachuk willed the team back into the game

- Mangiapane looked excellent on the 2nd line

- Team is still extremely sloppy and in summer mode

- Another classic Sam Bennett stick infraction that cost the his team the game today

- Doughty with the OT winner was just fitting and definitely fuels the rivalry even more. Now the next game will have even more hype.


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Old 10-08-2019, 10:22 PM   #116
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Slow starts seem to be seeping in from last year...
Correction.. at least 12 years.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:23 PM   #117
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But it was hit with a stick above his head (shoulders being the cutoff point).
You can’t tell where the stick was relative to his head/shoulders from the camera angles we saw. I don’t think that was at all clear.

Also, Mangiapane needs more love. He looked great on the second line.


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they can't challenge that
https://www.nhl.com/news/rule-change...on/c-307950356

Yes they can. Remember when Landeksog highsticked the puck down in Game 1, they were talking about if he had done it in the offensive zone it could be challenged, but the neutral zone isn't challengeable.
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The highstick in thr offensive zone leading to a goal is challengable now, remember.

Obviously the Kings didn't think either touch was a highstick as both are reviewable now.
Not sure why the Kings didn't challenge the hand pass by Monahan 20 seconds earlier.
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I’d like to think Tkachuk was thinking all that as the play went on too.
Of course he was. The kid is incredible.


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