09-24-2019, 06:39 AM
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#381
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In a major blow to Prime Minister Boris Johnson, the U.K.'s highest court ruled Tuesday his decision to suspend Parliament for five weeks in the crucial countdown to the country's Brexit deadline is illegal.
The unanimous Supreme Court ruling declared the order to suspend Parliament "void and of no effect."
Supreme Court President Brenda Hale said the suspension "was unlawful because it had the effect of frustrating or preventing the ability of Parliament to carry out its constitutional functions without reasonable justification."
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-k-su...294965?cmp=rss
And Boris the dummy loses again! Guy must get tired of so much wining.
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09-24-2019, 07:00 AM
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#382
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I suppose he could always appeal to the European Court of Justice.
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09-24-2019, 07:22 AM
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#383
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addition by subtraction
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Is there really any benefit to bringing Parliament back? Are they actually going to come to a consensus on anything? They've had 2 years to sort this out and no one can agree, so what's the point?
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09-24-2019, 07:25 AM
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#384
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Originally Posted by dobbles
Is there really any benefit to bringing Parliament back? Are they actually going to come to a consensus on anything? They've had 2 years to sort this out and no one can agree, so what's the point?
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Block a non-deal Brexit, get rid of Boris, ask for an extension, have an election, have another referendum(or make it part of the election) and end the fiasco. or some variation on that.
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09-24-2019, 07:39 AM
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#385
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addition by subtraction
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Block a non-deal Brexit, get rid of Boris, ask for an extension, have an election, have another referendum(or make it part of the election) and end the fiasco. or some variation on that.
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Odds that they do any of those things as opposed to just arguing and posturing more?
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09-24-2019, 07:47 AM
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#386
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Originally Posted by dobbles
Odds that they do any of those things as opposed to just arguing and posturing more?
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Tough to say, but at least it looks to be a potential path forward now. Hopefully common sense will kick in.
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09-24-2019, 11:14 AM
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#387
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Tough to say, but at least it looks to be a potential path forward now. Hopefully common sense will kick in.
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That reminds me that I need to get my Euromillions ticket. The jackpot is £167m tonight
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09-24-2019, 03:02 PM
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#388
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09-25-2019, 07:00 AM
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#389
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09-25-2019, 07:04 PM
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Will the supreme court decision set any precedence in other Westminster democracies?
You'd have to think the Harper prorogation in 2008 would have been declared similarly illegal if challenged.
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09-25-2019, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FireGilbert
Will the supreme court decision set any precedence in other Westminster democracies?
You'd have to think the Harper prorogation in 2008 would have been declared similarly illegal if challenged.
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I expect to refer to the decision in the pending appeal in the Alberta Court of Appeal of this judgment regarding our fixed election date law:
https://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/do...19abqb490.html
Oddly, there are technical arguments that because of the implementation of the Charter in 1982, Canada is stuck with constitutional relics that the UK itself can (and has) subsequently shed...including the idea that the Monarch can actually do anything other than what she is told by the PM (or in our case the Premier).
The 2008 Harper prorogation was challenged and upheld (on similar arguments lost by Boris)...and that case is being used by the Alberta courts to date to dismiss my clients' argument:
https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fca/doc...010fca131.html
I have argued the Federal Court of Appeal ruling makes no sense and should be treated as per incuriam (able to be ignored since it was carelessly decided) but that argument is thus far rejected.
It is not exactly riveting for people outside of constitutional law nerds but it is important stuff - particularly in the current environment where the rule of law is being seriously tested on many fronts it seems.
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09-26-2019, 07:35 AM
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In the Sin Bin
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Ok, this may warrant a separate thread, but I will admit to being somewhat riveted by that. Not the least of which because I'm a little amused that a dead guy is still the respondent. (Yeah, yeah. I know why.)
As a layperson, I am really struggling to figure out how an argument that Prentice called an election early violates the applicant's Charter right to.... participate in a democratic election. While I understand that the argument is basically a proxy for "you made this four year election law, now honour it you gits", the Charter argument seems absurd on its face. In particular, I really don't buy Rigney's argument of "I was totally going to run as a candidate, your honour, but since I got caught with my pants down, my rights were breached". Basically, I agree with the court's statements at paragraphs 104-106.
I agree that the fixed term election law is little more than a dog and pony show, but I suspect that the only outcome of a successful appeal is that the government amends the Election Act to remove fixed term rules and put is back to the pre-2011 amendment. And while that may perhaps be the ultimate goal, it seems a bit of a waste to spend all this time and money to end up in the very same outcome even if you do win.
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09-26-2019, 08:35 AM
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#393
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Bansky was right...
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09-26-2019, 08:37 AM
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Bansky was right...
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Is that like the Russian Banksy?
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09-26-2019, 08:45 AM
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I'll call him what I feel like calling him, Lock.
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09-26-2019, 08:50 AM
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#396
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I'll call him what I feel like calling him, Lock.
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Whatever you say fuze.
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10-17-2019, 04:05 AM
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The UK has reached a deal with the EU. All that is needed now are the details and for it to be agreed by the UK Parliament...
...which should be a piece of cake.
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10-17-2019, 06:29 AM
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#398
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However, immediately complicating matters was Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party (DUP), which didn't waste a minute to say they could not back the outline deal because of provisions for the Irish border.
Labour Party Leader Jeremy Corbyn echoed the DUP, saying the deal brokered Thursday is "even worse" than the settlement reached by Johnson's predecessor that was repeatedly rejected by lawmakers.
The Scottish National Party (SNP) will also not vote for Johnson's Brexit deal in Parliament because it poses a much harder exit from the EU, party leader Nicola Sturgeon said on Thursday.
In a surprising turn of events, Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage is urging lawmakers to reject the tentative deal, saying he would prefer an extension to the Oct. 31 Brexit deadline to be followed by a national election rather than a parliamentary vote in favour of the new terms.
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-k-eu...323987?cmp=rss
So basically everyone is going to vote against it. Nice deal.
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10-17-2019, 06:30 AM
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#399
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Originally Posted by Barnet Flame
The UK has reached a deal with the EU. All that is needed now are the details and for it to be agreed by the UK Parliament...
...which should be a piece of cake.
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This situation seems strangely familiar.
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10-17-2019, 06:46 AM
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It's been pretty entertaining seeing all the hopped up chuds on Twitter getting mad at Ireland and Scotland for blocking Brexit and telling them to "just leave then!"
Mate, that's what they've been trying to do for like, ever.
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