Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[Boreal]

Originally Posted by calumniate

Mact shows up on the ron Maclean panel pre-game. 'I didn't watch the game last night, but apparently it was bad'. Haha wtf is your actual job? Future gm for sure lol

I just watched this.

The best part is the disconnect between what Hitch said & what MacTavish reiterated. MacTavish said he felt it was always better to
come off a drubbing rather than a close game. Scott Oake said Hitch would be looking for a motivated team.

Hitchcock said the opposite. He said if you need to be embarrassed to be motivated, then that is part of the problem, not the solution. He also said they need to develop internal drive to compete, not shame.

Further evidence of the disfunction of that organization. Apparently there is no unified voice.

[Shazam]

MacT: 4 cups.
Hitchcock: 1 cup.

Obviously MacT knows way more about winning.

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

NO. Here is the difference: Oilers fans are complaining after last night's game about body checks. Body checks that are completely within the rules that somehow require an "answer" from another member of the team. Fans on the call-in show are not even suggesting that these are missed infractions; they are complaining that McDavid gets hit with completely legal body checks. I don't see a single poster here whining about legal contact on any Flames players and some outcry for other players on the team to address it. It's entirely different.

From everything I have heard it is mostly the fans complaining that there isn't any pushback when a team does go after their biggest star. Legal bodychecks or not, there is most often a ramification for hitting the biggest star of a team. I don't think that the vast majority of fans expect a penalty call because McDavid was hit, just more of a response from the team.

As for if McDavid is hooked and held quite a bit - sure he is a really fast player and does endure the same treatment that Gaudreau and Pettersson get. Flames and Canucks fans bitch about how they are being slashed, hooked, and tripped... that is just what happens to star players in the game now.

Originally Posted by McG

Odd that this post comes from a fan of the team that defined diving and cheap shots for many years, all the while with a fan base that denied it and blamed the NHL for being against the Canucks!

okay? I don't disagree - but you must realize that the Flames are doing the exact same thing - heck even Johnny Gaudreau (who is an amazing player) has been accused of embellishment and diving. Plus there is the ever present conspiracy theory that the NHL and the referees are against the Flames because of Denis Wideman.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Shazam

MacT: 4 cups.
Hitchcock: 1 cup.

Obviously MacT knows way more about winning.

At least 4 times as much.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It’s not about excellence. It is about loyalty. Like any successful oligarchy the Edmonton Oilers are founded on commitment to the brand above every other consideration.

Alas for the Oilers, this also describes every unsuccessful oligarchy. And those are far more common.

[topfiverecords]

Russell is back. Oilers win. All is well again. Stay the course. Spend more assets for playoff push depth.

[shogged]

i hope they beat the sharks too

[djsFlames]

Good job Oilers, you showed the coach after his comments yesterday! Now you can sit back and admire your effort until the next kick in the rear.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

Alright time to delete this thread.

That was a knee slapper.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by nobles_point

This kind of crap is pure gold. It explains why they continue to sell tickets. Their fans continue to give the organization a pass & use a few players as a scapegoat.

Which is precisely why Hitch was purportedly getting "in trouble" when he was insinuating through his comments that the team as a whole wasn't good enough.

I think there is some kgb level policing of the press up there by the team, because they know the population actually buys these narratives they sell and excuses they continually pump out including throwing individual players under the bus or glorifying their impact on the team. I'd feel bad if there was some humility to be found in that fan base. But alas, they've taken after their team. They're either great, on the verge of being great, or one or two players poor play standing in the way of being great.

[jg13]

It's possible we would have seen Chia fired tomorrow had the Oilers got blown out back to back to LA and Anaheim. Glad he will live to see another day. Stay the course! All is fine for the Oil

[---Hatrick---]

Am I missing something about all the outrage over the play on McDavid by Lindholm?? Seems like a physical play that happens countless times a game. Sure, it could have been nasty, had McDavid gone head first into the boards, but he didn’t....??? People are calling for a suspension on Lindholm for that? Am I missing something?

[FlamesAddiction]

I wouldn't put it past the Oilers to give Hitchcock the the dual GM and coach role to re-construct the team.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by ---Hatrick---

Am I missing something about all the outrage over the play on McDavid by Lindholm?? Seems like a physical play that happens countless times a game. Sure, it could have been nasty, had McDavid gone head first into the boards, but he didn’t....??? People are calling for a suspension on Lindholm for that? Am I missing something?

Edit. I thought this was regarding the hit he took against the Kings. Didn't see the Ducks highlights until just now. Still to me that looks like a 2 minute boarding minor at the most.

[iloveicedhockey]

Looks like boarding, nothing more. Gif going around on twitter doesn't show the whole play and does look way worse.

It could've been dangerous, just like all boarding calls that don't involve mcdavid could be, missed or otherwise.

[schteve_d]

I am so glad they pulled off a win last night. I didn't watch, or even look at stats, but 4-0 is a fairly convincing win too! I was concerned, of course, that they were doing TOO poorly. I love watching them fail, and when I first saw the score I was somewhat disappointed but if they can keep doing this all year, pulling out these wins now and then, it is the best case scenario. Stay just out of the playoff picture and their fans, management and the media will continue to think they are just one solid piece away from greatness.

[1Nite]

On global news this morning they brought out tweets from all the regime staff, jones, staufer, ferrraro, about the shoddy treatment the nhl gives poor mcWhiny, elbowed again last night and no call!

[Resolute 14]

Looks like pretty much the same hit Gaudreau has taken about three times this year - none of which were called. IMO, should have been a penalty.

[Matata]

Great sequence after the hit on McDavid:

*Gets smashed by Lindholm*
Gambi: Hey Lindholm, i got a real problem with that!
Getzlaf: No, you don't
Gambi: No, I don't

[Boreal]

To me the hit looked like he was avoiding contact to make a play rather than taking a hit to make a play and was avoiding being put on his butt. If he was stronger and had a different body type, like Crosby/Matthews/Tavares, he would have engaged the defender up front, dug in and started grinding to make a play.

These type of plays are going to become more frequent for him as teams, coaches, players review more and more video, identify more and more tendencies and figure him out.

It happened with Crosby, Ovechkin, and even Gaudreau to some extent. They all have adapted to give a different look and be more dynamic.

If he doesn't adapt, he will get injured in one of these plays.