[PGT] Markstrom 3 Flames 2 (OT)

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

It was two different games. Flames the significantly better team in first half but only a one goal lead to show for it.

Canucks slightly better in second half, but enough to even the score.

OT is what it is. Flames with chances they didn’t do much with and a bad play by Bennett.

Personally I don’t give the Flames a pass for letting Vancouver back into the game. It’s inexplicable really as to why their play dropped off when the game was still close and then tied for an entire period plus.

It is virtually impossible to dominate for 60 minutes. Had the Flames scored a couple in the first half, they probably cruise to victory. Unfortunately, Markstrom played well, and they shot wide on multiple glorious chances. The disallowed goal didn't help either.

[blender]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It is virtually impossible to dominate for 60 minutes. Had the Flames scored a couple in the first half, they probably cruise to victory. Unfortunately, Markstrom played well, and they shot wide on multiple glorious chances. The disallowed goal didn't help either.

True and good points, but we have seen this Flames team exert its will on other teams late in games in order to manufacture wins multiple times this season. Yet they were unable to last night. Canucks played well.

[LWcrowfoot]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It is virtually impossible to dominate for 60 minutes. Had the Flames scored a couple in the first half, they probably cruise to victory. Unfortunately, Markstrom played well, and they shot wide on multiple glorious chances. The disallowed goal didn't help either.

Agreed with this.

The Flames never let the Canucks back in in it because the Canucks were never out of it. A one goal game the entire way. They've been struggling lately but picking up points, hopefully Calgary gets back in their grove again.

Very few, if any, teams go through all 82 without a poor stretch. Nashville has one win in their last five.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

If Vancouver had drafted Sergachev and Tkachuk they would be be another step ahead. Travis Green has them playing as a team. If Marks trombone keeps up his play they are going to hang around for awhile.

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[Meers]

The top line played a lot of minutes last night. As a result, they had little gas left in the tank in the third period and it showed.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Meers

The top line played a lot of minutes last night. As a result, they had little gas left in the tank in the third period and it showed.

It’s the “McDavid effect.”


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[redforever]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Yeah he’s incredible. It’s a good thing he’s shifty, because Dube tossed him to the ice like a toddler.

What is all the negativity about the star players in the NHL? This is the best league and we should be celebrating players like Pettersson, McDavid, Gaudreau, Matthews and the like.

And why should the play by play people be constantly talking about 4th line players instead of the stars in the league?

All the talk and whining about homerism gets stale.

[1Nite]

Originally Posted by cannon7

It's fine if you like the CBC, or see it as a net benefit. Bu to imply that the CBC isn't a source of government propaganda is truly naive.

So they push forward whatever sitting party's propaganda?

[flambers]

Interesting game, keys to the game

Flames powerplay generated nothing on the night

Flames 2nd line (Backlund) is completely ineffective. They need to be split apart

Rough 3rd period for the Flames

Canucks didn't generate much but scored on the chances they created

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by redforever

What is all the negativity about the star players in the NHL? This is the best league and we should be celebrating players like Pettersson, McDavid, Gaudreau, Matthews and the like.

And why should the play by play people be constantly talking about 4th line players instead of the stars in the league?

All the talk and whining about homerism gets stale.

What the heck are you talking about? Pettersson is an incredible hockey player, I basically have to fight the urge to be a fan of his based on the amount of damage he’s going to do to the Flames for the next 10 years.

Which is what I said.... I’m not sure why you quoted me.

I also praised his ability to avoid getting injured despite being dangerously small. The league is full of humongous men who hold nothing back. Guys like Gaudreau and Pettersson, regardless of their strength, simply don’t have the mass to take a full speed impact from someone twice their weight. They have to always be aware, and be great on their feet. As they both are.

Have I cleared this up for you?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by HerbalMagic

What does Czarnik bring over Bennett? I'll take Bennett's forecheck and bodychecks over invisble Czarnik.

100x this. Tkachuk looked invisible until he was on the ice with Bennett. I love Backlund but I think we need to get him down to the third line where he can take the tough matchups and captilize on the rest. He and Janko seem to play well together too.

first line
Tkachuk- Scoring #2 (Schenn, Staal?) - Bennett
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik

That is a strong top 9. Go go trewizard.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It is virtually impossible to dominate for 60 minutes. Had the Flames scored a couple in the first half, they probably cruise to victory. Unfortunately, Markstrom played well, and they shot wide on multiple glorious chances. The disallowed goal didn't help either.

Agreed. But they didn’t just stop dominating. The game was tied for entire 3rd period and Vancouver was slightly better.

No reason to sound the alarm but I’m not with the Flames dominated narrative. It’s a 60 minute game and strangely Vancouver is the one that got better as the game went along. Peters is right to be a little disappointed with what he has seen lately.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

100x this. Tkachuk looked invisible until he was on the ice with Bennett. I love Backlund but I think we need to get him down to the third line where he can take the tough matchups and captilize on the rest. He and Janko seem to play well together too.

first line
Tkachuk- Scoring #2 (Schenn, Staal?) - Bennett
Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik

That is a strong top 9. Go go trewizard.

The Flames cannot afford Staal ($6M) or Schenn ($5.125M). If a change on the second line is coming, it’s coming internally. If at that time the team determines a greater change is needed they will move the appropriate pieces, which likely will include Backlund as a salary dump.

[81MC]

The ragging on Bennett is a bit over the top. I was at the game, he wasn’t junk. Mistakes happen, and it’s easy to pick them out. But his play all game was not terrible.

Flames team loss, plenty of chances but didn’t convert. Rasmus has a tough game, but that’ll happen. Take the point, carry on. Clean up some stuff and shoot the puck.

[Yobbo]

Originally Posted by 81MC

The ragging on Bennett is a bit over the top. I was at the game, he wasn’t junk. Mistakes happen, and it’s easy to pick them out. But his play all game was not terrible.

Flames team loss, plenty of chances but didn’t convert. Rasmus has a tough game, but that’ll happen. Take the point, carry on. Clean up some stuff and shoot the puck.

Exactly how I feel. We all care for this team and how it performs, but nights like this will happen, and happen to the best teams.

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[flamesfever]

It seems a player can play well, and one little mistake can nullify all the good that he has done during the game. Although he didn't stand out that much, IMO Bennett still played well last night.

I think Neal needs to be dropped down to the 3rd line, unless he shows that he can return to his old form. At this point, the lines I see as being most effective and reliable over the long haul would look something like this:

Gaudreau Monahan Linholm
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Jankowski Neal
Dube Ryan Hathaway

Quine
Czarnik

[AC]

Originally Posted by 81MC

The ragging on Bennett is a bit over the top. I was at the game, he wasn’t junk. Mistakes happen, and it’s easy to pick them out. But his play all game was not terrible.

Flames team loss, plenty of chances but didn’t convert. Rasmus has a tough game, but that’ll happen. Take the point, carry on. Clean up some stuff and shoot the puck.

Bennett also made a great pass under the Canuck's stick to Backlund for that partial breakaway. If he scores or draws the penalty, Bennett is the cause.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by redforever

I just don't see Neal being a fit on the Flames.

The Flames game is speed and quick transition. No matter what line you put Neal on, he does not possess those attributes and hauls down his line.

And yet he did fit decently on Vegas who is also a team based on speed and transition. It’s quite puzzling how bad the fit has been here so far

[AC]

Also, how great was it seeing Dube dummy Pettersson twice on one shift?

[flamesfever]

Dube also had two close in blocker side shots. There wasn't much room though, if at all, to go in. He seems to play quite smart, for his age and level of experience.