2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Mark Stone for TJ Brodie + Michael Frolik + Sam Bennett + Adam Fox

Holy over-payment Batman! Take TJ Brodie and any one of those assets and you have Mark Stone. The guy has only cracked 25 goals once in his career. You aren't trading for Ovechkin.

Then, we can try and sign Tavares

You can try and score a super model too, but it ain't going to happen either.

I know this is silly season, but come on people, there is a salary cap and you have to keep the prospect base healthy and well stocked, or you go full Oiler. Never go full Oiler.

[dissentowner]

You think Brodie and Frolik get you Stone? Lol.

[bax]

Originally Posted by New Era

Holy over-payment Batman! Take TJ Brodie and any one of those assets and you have Mark Stone. The guy has only cracked 25 goals once in his career. You aren't trading for Ovechkin.







You can try and score a super model too, but it ain't going to happen either.



I know this is silly season, but come on people, there is a salary cap and you have to keep the prospect base healthy and well stocked, or you go full Oiler. Never go full Oiler.

You are off on Stone’s value here. The guy was over a point per game last year on a terrible team, while being one of the best defensive wingers in the league. He consistently leads the league in takeaways.

Would you trade trade Gaudreau or Tkachuk for Brodie and Frolik?

Stone is their new franchise guy (if this mess doesn’t force them to blow up the franchise)

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You think Brodie and Frolik get you Stone? Lol.

Yup. Karlsson is a monster. After him, Stone is the Senators' best player. If I was the Senators GM, I would look at that offer and throw it in the special filing cabinet, especially because Karlsson may have asked for a trade and Hoffman seems like a must-trade.

If Hoffman will dump Monika Caryk or, improbably, the allegations are not true, I think I'd target Hoffman. I think he is totally acquirable right now. The dream is a deal around Michael Stone, but I think we'll still have to trade Brodie. The difference is that now this deal seems much more likely. I think Treliving would just need to make a legitimate offer and I think the Senators would take it.

However, I'm not sure if Treliving would. He talks a lot about acquiring the right kind of person. If the allegations are true, which seems to be the case, and Monika Caryk comes with Hoffman...

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Drunk Uncle

If we don't acquire a top 6 forward, we will need to depend on Jankowski, Bennett or someone from the farm becoming a top 6 forward, which seems like a stretch. Maybe one of the guys get there eventually but I wouldn't bank on it for next year.

Enough waiting and hoping that someone in the organization steps forward. If it happens great, that's a good problem to have. But if it doesn't we're just wasting the contracts of Monahan and Gaudreau and Gio isn't getting any younger either.

[Ashasx]

NateInVegas @NateInVegas
Dreger floating Lucic + Puljujarvi for Faulk or Hanifin.
Thoughts?

new owner gonna destroy the Hurricanes

[Toonage]

Oh man, that can't be true. The Oilers winning a deal? Thats impossible.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

I guess you think Ferland, Bennett and Jankowski are garbage and will continue to be garbage?

I don’t think many would agree with that assessment. Flames have most of the forwards needed imo. Just need one driving offensive forward and a step forward from Bennett or Janko and we have very good forward depth.

Atrocious? That describes Vancouver’s forwards

Until they prove otherwise, Ferland Bennett and Jankowski are kinda garbage. One just finished a promising rookie season and two of them can't produce when they don't play with Johnny Gaudreau.

Depth is a problem at forward, but it gets easier if there's another elite player to take heat off them

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

NateInVegas @NateInVegas
Dreger floating Lucic + Puljujarvi for Faulk or Hanifin.
Thoughts?

new owner gonna destroy the Hurricanes

I know. I heard that too. That would be outrageous. I won't believe Chiarelli is capable of pulling that off until I see it.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

NateInVegas @NateInVegas
Dreger floating Lucic + Puljujarvi for Faulk or Hanifin.
Thoughts?

new owner gonna destroy the Hurricanes

Oilers shill Darren Dreger?

Yeah, I believe he would love to see that deal, but I don't believe for a moment that any team trades for Lucic unless there is a hell of a lot more than Puljajarvi attached to it.

[Nelson]

I see Perron has moved down TSN’s FA board. If this actually corresponds to a real drop in his value, Perron is now my #1 FA target (outside the Tavares dream).

Of course, it still depends on the dollars and term required.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

NateInVegas @NateInVegas
Dreger floating Lucic + Puljujarvi for Faulk or Hanifin.
Thoughts?

new owner gonna destroy the Hurricanes

Hanifin or Faulk is a huge difference too

I don't think the Canes should do either but if it was Faulk it's not too far off.

But I don't see how the Canes who always wants t dump salary are taking Lucic back without a gross over payment. Maybe add 10th overall and for Faulk not Hanifin

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Hanifin or Faulk is a huge difference too

I don't think the Canes should do either but if it was Faulk it's not too far off

Lucia’s value is so negative that adding a dwindling prospect still keeps it negative.

I wouldn’t take the Oilers package for nothing.



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[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You think Brodie and Frolik get you Stone? Lol.

Yup. A top four defenseman and a top nine winger for a guy who scores 20-25 goals a year seems more than fair. Stone put up an anomalous season last year. I wouldn't pay a huge return for a player unless he has a track record, and Stone's track record is not worth anything more than I suggested. I think people are grossly undervaluing our players and willing to throw away good assets for the shiny bobble in the window.

[Erick Estrada]

Ricky Dudley isn't an inexperienced GM. He's worked for many organizations and has had some success. I find it hard to believe he would show interest in such a one-sided deal.

[Saqe]

Either Hanifin or Faulk won't make much of a difference in Edmonton but I can't believe they could get rid of that terrible contract just like that.

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Either Hanifin or Faulk won't make much of a difference in Edmonton but I can't believe they could get rid of that terrible contract just like that.

Maybe Lucic at 50% retained?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Ricky Dudley isn't an inexperienced GM. He's worked for many organizations and has had some success. I find it hard to believe he would show interest in such a one-sided deal.

Don Waddell is the GM in Carolina. He has never had success.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by New Era

Yup. A top four defenseman and a top nine winger for a guy who scores 20-25 goals a year seems more than fair. Stone put up an anomalous season last year. I wouldn't pay a huge return for a player unless he has a track record, and Stone's track record is not worth anything more than I suggested. I think people are grossly undervaluing our players and willing to throw away good assets for the shiny bobble in the window.

Brodie and Frolik are good assets for sure but it seems you are valuing them NHL18 style where adding up enough good assets gets you a great asset.



It just never works like that unless in a special scenario where a team is in a bind and wants to get rid of a player.



That's not the case with Stone. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Stone is probably the last guy Ottawa wants to trade right now.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Brodie and Frolik are good assets for sure but it seems you are valuing them NHL18 style where adding up enough good assets gets you a great asset.

It just never works like that unless in a special scenario where a team is in a bind and wants to get rid of a player.

That's not the case with Stone. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Stone is probably the last guy Ottawa wants to trade right now.

Which is basically what Vegas built their whole team on...