06-13-2018, 10:43 AM
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#241
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Prediction:
Hoffman and Caryk issue a press release saying Caryk has closed her social media accounts and is undergoing counselling. In the statement, Caryk apologizes to the Karlssons. Hoffman denies any knowledge of Caryk's online harassment, but says he is standing by his fiancee.
Hoffman is traded late in the summer when this has all cooled down. Team he is going to says they've spoken with Hoffman and they're confident the situation won't be a problem in the dressing room. Hoffman says he just wants to play hockey.
By October, nobody is talking about this, until a mini media frenzy at the first meeting of Hoffman and Karlsson's new teams (Karlsson will be traded too), when both players say they just want to move on.
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Yup. There is a well-established playbook on these kinds of things in the sporting world. Obviously this is a little different because it involves a player's spouse, but the game plan is still the same.
I'm 100% confident that Hoffman will be given another chance with a new team.
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06-13-2018, 10:59 AM
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#242
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
Prediction:
Hoffman and Caryk issue a press release saying Caryk has closed her social media accounts and is undergoing counselling. In the statement, Caryk apologizes to the Karlssons. Hoffman denies any knowledge of Caryk's online harassment, but says he is standing by his fiancee.
Hoffman is traded late in the summer when this has all cooled down. Team he is going to says they've spoken with Hoffman and they're confident the situation won't be a problem in the dressing room. Hoffman says he just wants to play hockey.
By October, nobody is talking about this, until a mini media frenzy at the first meeting of Hoffman and Karlsson's new teams (Karlsson will be traded too), when both players say they just want to move on.
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If Hoffman's gf did actually do that kind of harassing what makes you think she would change now? Using someone's dead child to harass them with is not what a normal person would do..
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06-13-2018, 11:02 AM
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#243
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Scoring Winger
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I think the thing that swings popular opinion in Melinda's favour is that she went and made a sworn statement before the court. Who would go and do that, unless they were being 100% honest. I mean, the threat of being charged with perjury is real. This isn't something that you do lightly, or when a situation is being overblown. Also, who goes to the extreme of making a sworn statement to the court if it was just a 1 time, "it slipped out" comment from someone else. Especially since the hockey wives community is so closed ranks for the most part. I'm sure they don't always get along, and yet you NEVER hear anything about it. This is a very public action, and Melinda would have to have known that there would be bad press, that reflects on Karlson, during a contract year. This all very much seems to me that actions of somebody that is at their wits end.
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06-13-2018, 11:29 AM
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#244
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Bruce GarriochVerified account @SunGarrioch
Statement from Mike Hoffman's agent Robert Hooper on Monika Caryk: "Given the seriousness of the allegations, Monika is meeting with her lawyers and any future comment on her course of action will come from them."
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06-13-2018, 11:30 AM
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#245
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers
Do regular non-famous people have more than that usually?
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Yes
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06-13-2018, 11:42 AM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
If Hoffman's gf did actually do that kind of harassing what makes you think she would change now? Using someone's dead child to harass them with is not what a normal person would do..
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Yeah. Zero chances Cliff's scenario is the way it goes, unless Hoffman dumps her. It's career suicide.
Of xourse you initially maintain you are caring enough to stick by her through the start of treatment
Last edited by EldrickOnIce; 06-13-2018 at 11:44 AM.
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06-13-2018, 11:45 AM
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#247
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary - Transplanted Manitoban
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Gotta think there are 30 teams in the NHL that wont come near Mike Hoffman at this point. The dude has gotta be blackballed by the league.
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06-13-2018, 11:51 AM
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#248
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO
Gotta think there are 30 teams in the NHL that wont come near Mike Hoffman at this point. The dude has gotta be blackballed by the league.
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Imo, only true if: first she is guilty and second she continues to be with him.
Otherwise he will be ok
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06-13-2018, 11:52 AM
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#249
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: east van
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO
Gotta think there are 30 teams in the NHL that wont come near Mike Hoffman at this point. The dude has gotta be blackballed by the league.
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No, he's just a much cheaper player now.
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06-13-2018, 11:52 AM
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#250
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO
Gotta think there are 30 teams in the NHL that wont come near Mike Hoffman at this point. The dude has gotta be blackballed by the league.
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Nope. I bet he will be sought notwithstanding this stuff. I agree that is going to wait until things have cooled down and there will be lots of positive PR.
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06-13-2018, 11:54 AM
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#251
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov
If Hoffman's gf did actually do that kind of harassing what makes you think she would change now? Using someone's dead child to harass them with is not what a mentally healthy person would do..
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FYP
IF it ends up being Hoffman's gf behind all of the harassment, is it not possible that she is chemically unbalanced? There are a lot of mentally unhealthy people out there. Wish everyone wouldn't be so quick to judge. A lot of facts will come out in the upcoming weeks/months.
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06-13-2018, 11:54 AM
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#252
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebot
I understand that people are hesitant to vilify Monika based on possible mob mentality, or that there is 2 sides to a story which is fair. Sometimes however there really is no 2 sides to a story, and there are people in the world that hateful and evil, especially within a woman circle. I can bet you 100% this is a jealousy situation, and Madisson could have been the target simply because of who she married, and her looks. And I have seen firsthand how some people will go to unfathomable lengths to destroy somebody they loathe, and wish to put down.
As for Hoffman, there are 2 possible situations: he is in love, and in denial of how crazy she is (love is a stupid thing). Or he is similar to her. Let's also not forget that should he dump her, he loses half of his assets as they were common law. It's a very very high price for him, and we likely will not hear his story until this blows over years from now.
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That is a lot of assumptions stuffed into a single post. I am not convinced it is altogether productive to conjecture much beyond what we know: that Mrs. Karlsson is a victim of relentless internet harassment, and that she has identified a perpetrator. We don't know anything about what lies behind these facts, and there are rather actually a number of equally viable explanations for what occurred.
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06-13-2018, 12:01 PM
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#253
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InCoGnEtO
Gotta think there are 30 teams in the NHL that wont come near Mike Hoffman at this point. The dude has gotta be blackballed by the league.
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So you're thinking having a fiancee who harassed another player's wife on social media is the worst thing an NHL player has ever done? Worse than sexual assault, vehicular manslaughter, drunken rampages, and spousal abuse?
Slava Voynov won't have any trouble getting an NHL contract. And he beat the #### out of his wife.
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06-13-2018, 12:18 PM
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#254
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Franchise Player
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I don't see a reason not to side with the victim here. Melinda Karlsson has no reason to take legal action against Caryk, whose spouse makes half as much money as hers, unless she legitimately feels like Caryk is harassing her.
Also, the other wives really hammer the nails into her coffin.
Sucks for Hoffman because you know he's getting it just as bad as Melinda, except he has to live with her.
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06-13-2018, 12:24 PM
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#255
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Yes I really do...read the thread:
Maybe these posts are in jest, but it doesn't change the fact that a photo can lead to a conclusion without much evidence.
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I think they were in jest, terrible jokes though and one of the posters you quoted has been sin binned for a worse "joke".
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06-13-2018, 12:30 PM
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#256
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I'd be so pissed if I was a pro hockey player with lots of money and a reputation to uphold, and my significant other ruined all of that by being an idiot on social media and starting an unwanted episode of the Real Hockey Housewives of Ottawa.
To me, and only to me... this would be a 'breakup-able' offense, regardless of history. Would rather be single than deal with that problem.
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06-13-2018, 12:43 PM
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#257
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Geeoff
I don't see a reason not to side with the victim here. Melinda Karlsson has no reason to take legal action against Caryk, whose spouse makes half as much money as hers, unless she legitimately feels like Caryk is harassing her.
Also, the other wives really hammer the nails into her coffin...
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The mistake is to assume that there must be a motivation on Karlsson's end. It could be that she is simply wrong in her identification. This is not to absolve Caryk of being a terrible person—and there is mounting evidence to suggest she is just that, but she could still be innocent of the specific charges regardless of the quality of her character.
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06-13-2018, 12:45 PM
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#258
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
The mistake is to assume that there must be a motivation on Karlsson's end. It could be that she is simply wrong in her identification. This is not to absolve Caryk of being a terrible person—and there is mounting evidence to suggest she is just that, but she could still be innocent of the specific charges regardless of the quality of her character.
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You must admit though, it was nice of her to give us something to talk about during the off-season.
Perhaps this is all part of a master plan to deflect attention from the Karlsson contract situation? All some big inside joke?
Granted, its not the nicest way to go about it.
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06-13-2018, 12:48 PM
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#259
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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With a few third party sources seeming to confirm what Melinda Karlsson alleges, it is difficult not to believe it. But none of us know any of these people personally and third party observations are often unreliable. It's better to just wait and see what actually gets proven.
This could very well cost Hoffman a lot of future earning potential though. He must really love this girl if he sticks with her and all the allegations end up being true.
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06-13-2018, 12:48 PM
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#260
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
The mistake is to assume that there must be a motivation on Karlsson's end. It could be that she is simply wrong in her identification. This is not to absolve Caryk of being a terrible person—and there is mounting evidence to suggest she is just that, but she could still be innocent of the specific charges regardless of the quality of her character.
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Yeah, to me the fact that Ms. Karlsson accused Caryk means that, even if Karlsson has it wrong and she wasn't the one, Caryk is a person who she thinks would do it. I usually err on the side of "let's see how this turns out" but man, so much smoke...
I notice that Caryk doesn't have any defenders among the WAGs. I've seen some older pics and videos where she is participating in charity events and seemingly everything is great, but you'd think that if there would at least be a couple "I know her and I can't imagine her doing anything like this" tweets.
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