[PGT] Flames 3 Losers 2

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Smith needs to on the team a few more years before he makes those comments in public.

Normally I would be bothered by it, but this team definitely has a heart issue with how often they come out flat this season. The team needs more fire and desire next season, and havingmore players that would stick up like Glass did would go a long way.

[Brick]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Yea that wincing and tripping forward was obviously indifference, and not pain and a lack of balance on one foot.

Just keep it up, this take is getting less and less brutal the more you elaborate.

You don't have to keep making excuses for him.

[GoJetsGo]

Originally Posted by Brick

You don't have to keep making excuses for him.

Pointing out your ridiculous description of the events isn't making excuses for anyone. It was illustrating your being eager to point fingers and place blame over an understanding of basic physics.

[MikePatton]

I hadn't seen the last several games but I was really impressed with Andersson. In my opinion, he should be a regular next season.

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[dammage79]

Not shocked to see that this Lucic thing has brought out the biggest weiners.

You're honestly going after Gio in this? Holy moly is there some grasping at straws.

Tell you what, go and get a buddy to whack you as hard as he can on the back of the calf and then try to go after him. Doubt you'll get very far.

And Stone Jumped once he saw what was going on. But of course this is omitted because is was during a quick camera cut out to another angle.

Lucic was a POS and taking liberties on both Smith and Gio.

And since there was nobody really close on the playing roster to deal with the guy, Glass got gooned up trying to make Lucic answer for his crime.

The simplest explanation is the team is not built to deal with this. Not Ferland, not Glass (middleweight class at best in the fighting department) not Stone or Smith or Gio.

Any one of those guys try to fight Lucic and you risk long term injury.

The only guys remotely close to dealing with Lucic in that way are Stewart and Gazdic down on the farm. Or Prout. Fresh out of call ups and the one guy who could got toe to toe with Lucic was scratched after scoring the only goal in a few games.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by MikePatton

I hadn't seen the last several games but I was really impressed with Andersson. In my opinion, he should be a regular next season.

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Yeah at worst he looks like a stable third pairing guy. But his offense hasn't kicked in yet in these games. Once that gets rolling we got some gravy.

[dammage79]

It was like the Vegas game after Reaves blew up Brodie. People were crying for Ferland to go after him and I shook my head. Reaves is in the heavyweight of Brian McGratton would have a tough time of going a round with the guy and we want to make a middleweight go after him?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dammage79

It was like the Vegas game after Reaves blew up Brodie. People were crying for Ferland to go after him and I shook my head. Reaves is in the heavyweight of Brian McGratton would have a tough time of going a round with the guy and we want to make a middleweight go after him?

A middleweight with concussion issues. I would rather Ferland not risk permanent injury over what in reality wasn’t that big a deal.

Like everyone, I have my issues with Brouwer but he’s answered the bell when called upon. Now that he’s caged it’s a little harder to go after the other team’s bruisers (hence dressing Glass).

[Travis Munroe]

Personally, I don't blame anyone for not going after Lucic as we didn't have the right guy to do it in the lineup. I am sure had it happened earlier in the game, Lucic would have been the recipient of multiple hard body checks and slashes but dropping the gloves with him just isn't an option. I do think Ferland could stand toe to toe with him however it simply isn't worth sinking to Lucic level in such a game.

I would like to see a top line RW brought in next year and the ability to have the best option of heavyweight / can skate sit in the press box until required vs being called up and down. Lucic will get his and I hope it comes at the hands of the flames.

[Calgary4LIfe]

I think the Flames had an adequate response all things considered. I mean, imagine having to take a run at Lucic who will then grab you and start hurtling punches at your head. Look what he did to Glass.

This was 100% a failure on Gulutzan in not dressing Stewart. It is a fricken rather meaningless game. He knows they are dressing Lucic. Why the heck did the Flames even bother picking up Stewart from waivers if not to play him exclusively against the Oilers?

IMO, Stewart plays, and he gets sent over the boards as soon as Lucic starts taking runs at guys and trying to make his presence felt. I would bet at that time, he doesn't get a chance to slash Smith, doesn't slash Giordano, and Smith probably doesn't feel the need to go after him. Most of all, Glass wouldn't have to get his face caved-in trying to stick up for his team.

Some people think you just 'ignore it'. Sometimes you can't. When you have a guy that is going around and taking runs at guys, slashing guys, and then giving guys punches... you simply can't turn the other cheek and wait for an official to get him off the ice. Sometimes officials start handling that way too late. Sometimes you do need an answer for that.

Gulutzan dropped the ball with his lineup decision. Stewart should have been the guy dressing tonight, not Glass. Glass could have played the next game. Stewart should have been in this one. You only have to look at the lineup card to figure that one out. I hope both Burke and Treliving give Gulutzan some grief over that decision.

I also hope everyone in that locker room went out of their way to personally thank Glass and gave him a big pat on the back. Good on Smith for talking about him in the media - Glass earned a tonne of accolades and respect out there last night.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Yeah, I disagree with this. You're leading by a goal, and you know you're going to be facing McDavid and Draisaitl,

Foo is probably the last guy I want on the ice in that situation.

This isn't a video game.

In this case, putting players with better defensive awareness was the proper coaching decision.

Putting Foo on the ice, who's not fully up to speed with NHL defensive responsibilities would be silly.

It's a meaningless game. I don't see a point in bringing in Foo and then sitting him most of the third period when he's being evaluated for his offence. It would've been more fitting to put him against the best to see how he'd do rather than protect a one goal lead. In regards to his defensive awareness, he did show that he can bust his butt going back in the defensive zone a few times.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by CSharp

It's a meaningless game. I don't see a point in bringing in Foo and then sitting him most of the third period when he's being evaluated for his offence. It would've been more fitting to put him against the best to see how he'd do rather than protect a one goal lead. In regards to his defensive awareness, he did show that he can bust his butt going back in the defensive zone a few times.

Seriously?

You don't see the point in protecting a young guy in his first NHL game (and in said game) where things were getting ugly?

That's just basic common sense, nothing to do with "defensive awareness".

It's unbelievable how many people can't just enjoy a win in a GAME that they supposedly are fans of.

Truly disheartening.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I think the Flames had an adequate response all things considered. I mean, imagine having to take a run at Lucic who will then grab you and start hurtling punches at your head. Look what he did to Glass.

This was 100% a failure on Gulutzan in not dressing Stewart. It is a fricken rather meaningless game. He knows they are dressing Lucic. Why the heck did the Flames even bother picking up Stewart from waivers if not to play him exclusively against the Oilers?

IMO, Stewart plays, and he gets sent over the boards as soon as Lucic starts taking runs at guys and trying to make his presence felt. I would bet at that time, he doesn't get a chance to slash Smith, doesn't slash Giordano, and Smith probably doesn't feel the need to go after him. Most of all, Glass wouldn't have to get his face caved-in trying to stick up for his team.

Some people think you just 'ignore it'. Sometimes you can't. When you have a guy that is going around and taking runs at guys, slashing guys, and then giving guys punches... you simply can't turn the other cheek and wait for an official to get him off the ice. Sometimes officials start handling that way too late. Sometimes you do need an answer for that.

Gulutzan dropped the ball with his lineup decision. Stewart should have been the guy dressing tonight, not Glass. Glass could have played the next game. Stewart should have been in this one. You only have to look at the lineup card to figure that one out. I hope both Burke and Treliving give Gulutzan some grief over that decision.

I also hope everyone in that locker room went out of their way to personally thank Glass and gave him a big pat on the back. Good on Smith for talking about him in the media - Glass earned a tonne of accolades and respect out there last night.

So far Stewart has shown no sign that he would have stepped up.

[rage2]

Originally Posted by bc-chris

so i missed a bit of last night's game becuz my aunt and uncle were in town

i noticed that Bennett had shaved his beard... so i'm curious if there was any special segment or interview with him about it? the reason i ask is becuz earlier this past week mcmuffin shaved and it was worthy of a segment during an oilers game and they even asked him about it in a post game interview.

skip to 1:40

https://www.nhl.com/oilers/video/pos...406/c-59238703

Completely random, but I noticed that the entire team was clean shaven with fresh haircuts a couple games back (ducks at the dome iirc). Couldn’t figure out the significance of it. Only exception was Andersson who was just called up.

[dino7c]

The real story for me is that Lucic punched a goalie in the head 3 times...once in the back of the head and got a 2 min penalty.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by rage2

Completely random, but I noticed that the entire team was clean shaven with fresh haircuts a couple games back (ducks at the dome iirc). Couldn’t figure out the significance of it. Only exception was Andersson who was just called up.

And his hair is fabulous.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

So far Stewart has shown no sign that he would have stepped up.

Disagree. I have noticed him taking exception in the past, and having a few words, and it seemed to quickly calm the other team down. I don't remember much happening during the last Oilers-Flames game, however chippy it may be.

That's what dressing Stewart does. Besides, Lucic just suddenly becomes a big tough-guy when he knows there is nobody on the other team that can respond. I don't recall any of his big spazz-outs against teams with tough guys - Buffalo when he ran Miller, San Jose when he went after Couture (IIRC), etc. He has become such a spot-picker.

You bet your life that Stewart keeps him honest out there. I would love to keep playing against Lucic in Edmonton as he will give the Flames PPs, but I would hate to see someone get injured because of the stuff he does. The guy just goes 'nutty' sometimes, and he doesn't seem to have that code where he doesn't go after the other guy's star players like an enforcer never does.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dino7c

The real story for me is that Lucic punched a goalie in the head 3 times...once in the back of the head and got a 2 min penalty.

Lucic suckers a goaltender in the head multiple times and the officials treat it like it's the same penalty as when two guys get into a shoving match. Officiating in this league is broken.

[CMPunk]

How is it a sucker punch when Smith threw the first punch?

[Stanley]

I don't mind Smith's comments, cause he's right. This roster could use a little blood-pumping emotion and a much higher give-a-#### meter