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			That is horrible. What a rat. This is Burrows level rat moves.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:05 PM
			
			
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			Yeah not sure how Tkachuk gets a hearing and Mantha gets nothing. Pretty gutless move.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:08 PM
			
			
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				wow, he wasn't holding anything back. Dude will have a reckoning 
			
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			11-17-2017, 02:15 PM
			
			
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			Frustrating as all hell to see that.  How that is not worthy of a suspension is way beyond me.  That crosses the line between sport and assault by a good bit. 
P.s. Anyone think the Flames should have speak out regarding this?  I know publically calling out the league might not be the best thing sometimes, but no one watching that video could possibly endorse that behaviour from an athlete.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			11-17-2017, 02:18 PM
			
			
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				Wow.  That's even worse than I thought.  Not sure how they cannot discipline Mantha after that. 
			
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Cause he's a bigger name in Detroit maybe?
 
They seem to tend to find one scapegoat and they probably felt Witkowski's sentence would suffice / cover up the rest.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:35 PM
			
			
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				Wow.  That's even worse than I thought.  Not sure how they cannot discipline Mantha after that. 
			
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Checking over the penalties, they show Hamonic getting 5 for fighting and 10 game misconduct, Mantha gets the same and a extra 10 game misconduct, so I am guessing the reffs gave that for what he did, yet the league seems to have stopped the video at Tkatcuk's tap. Also going back and looking at witkowski penalties he gets 5 for fighting and 10 game misconduct + 10 misconduct against Kulak(is this for coming on to the ice and instigating a fight, although there is no instigator wording or is this 10 minutes for trying to smash Kulak's head into the ice?) then he is given another 10 misconduct, which I think is for coming back onto the ice. Would like to know does the league go over the video and the reff's statements of what the calls were for? And of the athanasiou, grabbing off of the bench of Hamonic, or Ferland's punches, is there also something about Howard crossing the center ice, not just leaving the crease? The league just seems half-a## in how they do lot of things, and I don't think how they handle this will be any different.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:46 PM
			
			
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That’s a scathing video.  Someone needs to send it to the league.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:47 PM
			
			
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				That’s a scathing video.  Someone needs to send it to the league. 
			
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The league doesn't give a ####.
 
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			11-17-2017, 02:52 PM
			
			
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				The league doesn't give a ####. 
 
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Maybe.  I just tweeted it to the Player Safety board.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:54 PM
			
			
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				Maybe.  I just tweeted it to the Player Safety board. 
			
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			11-17-2017, 02:54 PM
			
			
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				That’s a scathing video.  Someone needs to send it to the league. 
			
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someone needs to send that video to michael ferland, he has his whole career to even that up.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-17-2017, 02:58 PM
			
			
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			so the linesman is trying to pull Mantha off,  and the fight keeps going when one participant is on the ground.  How does that linesman not report what happened and how is there no further action taken - really disgusting.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:59 PM
			
			
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			God imagine if Tkachuk did that, would be a 100 page thread on HF saying how he should be kicked out of the league haha. Love double standards
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:59 PM
			
			
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				so the linesman is trying to pull Mantha off,  and the fight keeps going when one participant is on the ground.  How does that linesman not report what happened and how is there no further action taken - really disgusting. 
			
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No kidding. They have first hand knowledge of what happened. How is there no suspension?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 02:59 PM
			
			
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			Garry Galley can testify as a key witness. Mantha instigated the fight with Hamonic and then continued throwing down fists even after the linesman tried to stop him. All within the confines of his own bench where no other Flames can get at him. What a little b*tch!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 03:00 PM
			
			
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				so the linesman is trying to pull Mantha off,  and the fight keeps going when one participant is on the ground.  How does that linesman not report what happened and how is there no further action taken - really disgusting. 
			
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Yup. Officiating has been pretty disgusting these last few season. NHL needs to do something about it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 03:01 PM
			
			
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			There were 2 or 3 guys who hauled Hamonic down from behind.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-17-2017, 03:07 PM
			
			
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			NHL discipline is directly tied to public attention.  
 
Want Mantha suspended?  Start tweeting that clip to media types for their comments.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-17-2017, 03:09 PM
			
			
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				NHL discipline is directly tied to public attention.  
 
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I agree, if Hamonic was left unconscious on the ground and bloody you can bet something would have happened to Mantha. Instead he was fine so they don't care.  
 
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