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Originally Posted by Flames in 07
Social is manufacturing he largest example of groupthink in the history of humanity causeing is to all 'know' stuff that our kids will one day laugh at.
Don't need time or kids to have a chuckle at whatever this says.
Don't need time or kids to have a chuckle at whatever this says.
A generation ago global cooling was the concern because of the emissions from volcanos. Things change. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's true. We may be in the middle of a run up in temps due to carbon emissions or it may be from other stimulus that we don't measure.
Human bias drives people in ways they don't understand. We give ourselves too much credit for what we know.
Anyway long day, and I'm tired. cal puck is about my only link left to calgary and the more I read stuff on here over the last couple months the more I realize I held it in too high an esteem. Duffman basically says on page one that trump voters are getting theirs (Harris county is democrate but small detail) and people see a tragedy with death, serious injury, uncontrollable crying because they lost everything and all people like tinordi think is to say "see I was right" meanwhile ignoring the reason there is so much water is from a fluke front of the same magnitude met it about on the coastline. Again small detail I know.
We thought when people piled on calgary or ft mac from BC or the east they were the worst. Turns out calgarians are the same.
A generation ago global cooling was the concern because of the emissions from volcanos.
No, it was a concern because of media outlets jumping on it without evidence. It had little support from the scientific community, unlike climate change.
This discussion needs to move to the climate change thread that already exists.
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I don't believe Hurricane Harvey is God's punishment for Houston electing a lesbian mayor. But that is more credible than "climate change."
How affected is downtown Houston? I have only seen what look like images outside of the downtown core.
Not much in downtown Houston, where one of the large shelters is located. Buffalo bayou runs just north of downtown and it flooded badly but little effect on office buildings and the famous tunnel system to my knowledge.
Unlike Tropical Storm Allison.
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Your useless thoughts and prayers are about as good to the people of Houston as a sack of horse manure right now.
Spare the sentimental crap. If now isn't a good time to talk about climate change, when is?
People are perfectly capable of supporting humanitarian aid AND at the same time discussing the role of climate change, thank you very much.
We're talking about climate change non-stop already. So the implication of "either/or" is unfounded.
And other than his "maybe its real, maybe it's not" sentence, Flames in 07's post is bang on. Tinordi wasn't trying to discuss climate change. He was trying to take his "victory lap" and use the disaster to pump his own ego.
It's a particular moral perversion to call out the person who wants to discuss the causes of this disaster and then a couple posts later bellow out blatant falsehoods like global cooling and other milketoast climate denial.
One person is horrified by the impact of climate and wants to discuss it, the other wants to peddle falsehoods to gloss over the suffering and damage that our gross collective negligence has manifested. The cherry on top is that those lies and falsehoods have be a key input to our inaction.
Context and history matter, Tinordi. An overwhelming majority of your posts are designed to be self-congratulatory. Your history is basically a perverted form of the boy who cried wolf, and you shouldn't really be surprised at this point that few people take you seriously.
Context and history matter, Tinordi. An overwhelming majority of your posts are designed to be self-congratulatory. Your history is basically a perverted form of the boy who cried wolf, and you shouldn't really be surprised at this point that few people take you seriously.
That's a nice get out of jail card you've printed for yourself.
"I think you're a jerk therefore I'm justified in my perverse moral takes."
It's a particular moral perversion to call out the person who wants to discuss the causes of this disaster and then a couple posts later bellow out blatant falsehoods like global cooling and other milketoast climate denial.
One person is horrified by the impact of climate and wants to discuss it, the other wants to peddle falsehoods to gloss over the suffering and damage that our gross collective negligence has manifested. The cherry on top is that those lies and falsehoods have be a key input to our inaction.
What a bizarre self serving view of these events.
It is milquetoast, not some cooked bread you dip in milk.
Also on another note...everytime I hear milquetoast I think of this:
SWEAR WORD WARNING!!
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People who take this hurricane as being a direct result of climate change are just as ridiculous as people who take a perfectly seasonable day in March as proof positive of climate change not occuring. Weather is not climate!
People who take this hurricane as being a direct result of climate change are just as ridiculous as people who take a perfectly seasonable day in March as proof positive of climate change not occuring. Weather is not climate!
It is Scientific fact that humans are having an effect on the climate (is it 10%, 50%, 80% ?). It is fair to say that what we are doing could lead to an increased number of these type of storms, but it is not fair to say that this particular storm was caused by climate change.
People who take this hurricane as being a direct result of climate change are just as ridiculous as people who take a perfectly seasonable day in March as proof positive of climate change not occuring. Weather is not climate!
True, but the overall increasing trend in storms that we see likely has something to do with climate change. Not everything to do with climate change, but the frequency and intensity of storms like this one may be exacerbated by global warming. That doesn't seem at all far-fetched to me.
Obviously, if I'm right about that, we're just going to have to become accustomed to the new reality that sees more and more severe weather events as time goes on. I seem to recall after Sandy this being discussed and being deemed credible by climate scientists, though I don't have any specific evidence I can point you to off the top of my head.
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Obviously, if I'm right about that, we're just going to have to become accustomed to the new reality that sees more and more severe weather events as time goes on. I seem to recall after Sandy this being discussed and being deemed credible by climate scientists, though I don't have any specific evidence I can point you to off the top of my head.
They said the same thing in 2005 when four Cat 5 hurricanes formed that season, but since then only three have formed. Tornadoes have also been quiet in the US in recent years, with 2017 looking like an average year, following several years of low activity (2012-2016) and a year of high activity in 2011:
