Should Treliving Acquire Iginla by Mar 1?

[Table 5]

If a rusty old Iginla is what this team needs to have a successful playoffs, than we're already doomed. The only thing he can offer the Flames at this stage of his career is a marketable feel-good story. It has it's own value of course, but I just don't see big enough of a benefit to try to pursue it.

There are positions on this team that would benefit from an upgrade... I just don't think Iginla is the guy to fill them.

It would be like when Fleury tried to make a comeback. Exciting at first, but kind of sad by the end of it.

[topfiverecords]

Thanks mods for adding the poll!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Table 5

If a rusty old Iginla is what this team needs to have a successful playoffs, than we're already doomed. The only thing he can offer the Flames at this stage of his career is a marketable feel-good story. It has it's own value of course, but I just don't see big enough of a benefit to try to pursue it.

There are positions on this team that would benefit from an upgrade... I just don't think Iginla is the guy to fill them.

It would be like when Fleury tried to make a comeback. Exciting at first, but kind of sad by the end of it.

The questions are:

1. Is Iginla better then Chaisson, Hathaway, Versteeg's, etc where he can play in the everyday lineup. Personally I think he is better then Chaisson and offers a PP boost if a player or 2 go down. Good insurance

2. If not, would he accept a Lanny type role. I don't think he would.

3. Do we need/want his leadership. Can't make an informed decision as I don't know the players thoughts.

The poll is "if the price is right." You should acquire any player if the price is right. (Minus personal issues, etc) Even if they sit in the pressbox every game and provide insurance against injuries.

[Igottago]

Low risk acquisitions are great unless its a future hall of famer recognized as one of the best players of his generation it seems.
There's more positivity towards guys who would end up in the minors than there is for a guy who has accomplished more than anyone in this jersey.

I don't feel like this is that great of a fit but there's no way this hurts the team.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by edn88

I'm nostalgic. I'd love to see Iggy in Flames colors and part of a deep (deep) playoff run and then he retires from the game a Flame (hopefully with a cup).

I agree Iginla with Johnny and Sean would be interesting.

And if for nothing else, getting Iggy to Calgary instead of Edmonton is worth it as well.

Finally - if Iggy does go to Edmonton and the Flames cannot win a cup, I'd be OK with him winning one in Edmonton. There are more important things in life than hating on a dirty town with a terrible road system.

The correct answer to the final statement is: Were he to waive to go there, it will be even more satisfying when the Flames sweep the Oil in the playoffs.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

The questions are:
1. Is Iginla better then Chaisson, Hathaway, Versteeg's, etc where he can play in the everyday lineup.

You also need to add any other available player that might be able to fill that role, whether it be in the AHL or on the trade market. From a strictly hockey perspective, there have to be better options than an old grey beard. Because if that's the winning ticket, you might as well get Jagr instead.

Originally Posted by Jason14h

3. Do we need/want his leadership. Can't make an informed decision as I don't know the players thoughts.

I personally think Iginla's leadership qualities are somewhat over-rated. He was the captain of this team during a pretty long streak of underachievement. Being a great player doesn't always equate to being a great leader.

[home_sweet_dome]

It's a no brainer for me.

Iggy in a limited 3rd/4th line role along with some PP time could be very effective. Don't discount what the energy of what is likely his final playoff drive would do for him either, especially with the Cgy fans behind him.

Also what no one is talking about is he would be a focal point for the media and fans and that would take pressure off the young core and let them be loose and play.

The last time a Flames legend played his final season here was 89 and we all know what happened then. Not saying that's gonna happen but if goaltending got hot you just never know in the West this year....dare to dream.

And really the cost will be a 3rd rounder in a very weak draft.

#bringhomeJarome

[thefoss1957]

Of course, I am, clearly, not a Flames' fan, so, I could vote without the affection that many of you guys and girls feel. Your team is a WC hopeful, still, at this point. Iginla is an 8-10-18 -19 player...with 8 of his point total on the PP. He just seems done, 5 on 5, and really cannot seem to bring much value, except for sentiment, for a team fighting for its playoff chance. Mine was a no vote, taking playoff hopes for Calgary as my only consideration.

[Jbo]

I love Iginla, but would rather see him go someplace he has a legit chance to win the cup, rather then bring him home for a potential playoff run.

Iggy will sign a one-day contract and retire here. Go get a cup Iggy

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

Of course, I am, clearly, not a Flames' fan, so, I could vote without the affection that many of you guys and girls feel. Your team is a WC hopeful, still, at this point. Iginla is an 8-10-18 -19 player...with 8 of his point total on the PP. He just seems done, 5 on 5, and really cannot seem to bring much value, except for sentiment, for a team fighting for its playoff chance. Mine was a no vote, taking playoff hopes for Calgary as my only consideration.

The problem is the Flames also have a 9-10-19 -12 Brouwer and an 8-7-15 -7 Chiasson.

Iginla is an upgrade.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by home_sweet_dome

The last time a Flames legend played his final season here was 89 and we all know what happened then.

Yeah. The team was utterly dominant in every facet of the game. 117 points. 54 wins. First in goals for. Second in goals against. Jiri Hrdina and Theo Fleury played on the fourth line. Rob Ramage played on the third defence pairing.

In terms of winning percentage z-score – how many standard deviations above average the team was – that Flames team was in the top five in NHL history.

You'll never see another team like that, not as long as there's a salary cap. Bringing in Iginla will not magically turn this or any team into the '89 Flames.

[JTech780]

I really don't see the upside of adding Iginla, this team is slow enough.

He isn't an upgrade on anyone we currently have on the RW.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by home_sweet_dome

The last time a Flames legend played his final season here was 89 and we all know what happened then.

I too look forward to Iggy recreating the magic of 89 by seeing the Flames be eliminated in 5 games in the first round.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

The problem is the Flames also have a 9-10-19 -12 Brouwer and an 8-7-15 -7 Chiasson.

Iginla is an upgrade.

Yeah, this is really the only way to look at the situation in a purely pragmatic fashion.

Is Iginla an upgrade over one of the four RW that usually play? Y/N?

If yes, then the answer should be yes (barring an unusually high acquisition cost).

If no, then it's no.

Equal to the posters whose thoughts of Iginla are dripping with nostalgia are the posters who believe in a 'we've moved on' sentimentality. Neither position is rational.

You either believe Iginla is an upgrade on two of Brouwer, Chiasson, Versteeg, Bouma, Ferland, Hathaway, or Hamilton... or you don't. You don't want him sitting in the press box for big stretches, so if he's no better than the worst two or three guys on that list then there's no point in acquiring him.

That said, I think he's the 4th best forward out of that group, which is why I voted yes.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Yeah, this is really the only way to look at the situation in a purely pragmatic fashion.

Is Iginla an upgrade over one of the four RW that usually play? Y/N?

If yes, then the answer should be yes (barring an unusually high acquisition cost).

Regardless of cost, is he an upgrade over anybody else that you can get with the assets to acquire him? How much is nostalgia worth if you can find someone better?

[SportsJunky]

I'm not sure if he's a good fit but I want him back for a few games regardless. Jarome belongs here. Make it so Brad!

[klikitiklik]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

I am in no way a Brouwer hater, I liked the signing.

But he has been "meh" personified this season as a whole and specifically as of late.

I would 100% prefer Iginla on the power play right now over Brouwer.

Add me to the Brouwer haters group. Has shown nothing of what he was brought in for. Hell I can't think of a player(apart from Bouma) who has done less for this team this year. Soft player

[Rollin22x]

How bad would it be for those nostalgic fans if he didn't work out at all?
What would the effect be, mentally, to those players that believe they are the stars of the team to see Iggy come back and take away that spotlight? Would they welcome it or resent it just a bit.

[Gaskal]

I'd play Iginla over Chiasson for sure. Maybe Bouma.

That being said, I'm pretty sure we're probably his last resort choice, and vice versa with Iginla as a last resort cheap acquisition if he has no other suitors (there are shinier UFA winger names out there, but only on Calgary will Iggy have that extra 'kick' to the city).

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by klikitiklik

Add me to the Brouwer haters group. Has shown nothing of what he was brought in for. Hell I can't think of a player(apart from Bouma) who has done less for this team this year. Soft player

I'm a believer in signed free agents typically being better in their 2nd season but I'm not willing to let Brouwer off the hook in his first season because he's been a disappointment. IMO if Poirier played for the Flames this season and put up the same stats and on ice presence I would say he had a so-so first NHL season because he's had brief moments but has been invisible for long stretches. The fact that a veteran player making $4+ million had this season is a big disappointment.