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Old 02-10-2017, 09:06 AM   #1321
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If it came down to exposing Brouwer or Ferland its a no brainer in my opinion.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:07 AM   #1322
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Hockey feed on Facebook has a blurb about both the Flames and Oilers interested in Barrie from Colorado
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:08 AM   #1323
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I hope not. Barrie is one of the worst d-men defensively in the league and don't see how he'd be a fit here.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:10 AM   #1324
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I can't see the Flames spending the assets to acquire a player like that with the risk he would be picked up by Vegas. If the Flames protect 4D then Frolik is as good as gone
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I have no idea why Boomer has it in his head that the Flames would expose Giordano - just crazy talk IMO
IMO Gio has trade value so even if you want to get rid of his deal there is no point in exposing him.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:17 AM   #1326
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Friedman also claimed that Brouwer was not a McPhee move in Washington but I am fairly certain that McPhee did acquire Brouwer and it was Maclellen that moved him for Oshie
IMO Vegas picking him up is a perfect scenario for Treliving who could get a mulligan on that signing.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:29 AM   #1327
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IMO Vegas picking him up is a perfect scenario for Treliving who could get a mulligan on that signing.
I agree and think it is a real possibility. Brouwer is very much overpaid and the Flames could better spend that $4.5M elsewhere.

If the Flames could move out Brouwer's dough, sign Bennett to a bridge deal under $3M per, they could be a decent player in the trade/free agent market to get a #4D and top line RW
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I agree and think it is a real possibility. Brouwer is very much overpaid and the Flames could better spend that $4.5M elsewhere.

If the Flames could move out Brouwer's dough, sign Bennett to a bridge deal under $3M per, they could be a decent player in the trade/free agent market to get a #4D and top line RW
Or resign Backlund
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You can see he has lost a step and that contract is an anchor.
Yet he's still a top pairing d-man, and probably the number 1 d-man on this team.

It's not a coincidence that Brodie and Hamilton both perform much better when they are playing with Gio.
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I am really interested to see what happens at the deadline.

The last few trade deadlines it was pretty obvious what the Flames were going to do. This one its hard to tell. By the end of the next road trip we will have a better idea of what is going on.

What i'm most curious about is how the expansion draft will impact the TDL. How do you folks think it will impact the deadline? will it decrease prices or increase trades? I have no idea how it will affect the Flames at the deadline.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:53 AM   #1331
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Cody Franson in a walking boot after blocking a shot.

Could affect his tradeability at the deadline.
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:05 AM   #1332
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If it came down to exposing Brouwer or Ferland its a no brainer in my opinion.
You can easily protect both.

Johnny
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Brouwer
Ferland

Expose Bouma and Stajan. Was there another forward you wanted to protect? Maybe a signed Versteeg?
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You can easily protect both.

Johnny
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Brouwer
Ferland

Expose Bouma and Stajan. Was there another forward you wanted to protect? Maybe a signed Versteeg?
the original post was using the senario where we get a FW at the deadline that we want to protect and thus push Brouwer and Ferland to fight for the last spot
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Old 02-10-2017, 11:32 AM   #1334
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The 30 NHL Clubs must submit their Protection List by 5:00 P.M. ET on Saturday, June 17, 2017. The Las Vegas team must submit their Expansion Draft Selections by 5:00 P.M. ET on June 20 and the announcement of their selections will be released on made on June 21.
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How long are trades permitted prior to the Golden Knights choosing their team?
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I think the Flames should be looking at doing a trade to avoid a Las Vegas pick.

Instead of exposing Giordano, see if you can move to Las Vegas in a hockey trade.

If the rumour was Phaneuf might be asked to waive for Vegas, I've gotta think Vegas would also be interested in the lower cap, higher performing Giordano to provide them veteran leadership.
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...why are people still talking about trading Giordano?

Subtract Giordano and we're not going to improve next year. There's no one better in free agency, Vegas isn't going to have anything better to give us, and no one in the league is trading top pairing d-men.

Giordano is our captain, and is still playing at a high level. He and Hamilton are one of the absolute best pairings in the entire league - trading Giordano is madness.

Our defence is the way it is. Adding Kulikov or someone would be nice right now, but fairly foolish and risky from an asset management standpoint unless you're confident he has no desire to sign in Vegas or anywhere else - and even then, there can be no behind closed doors agreements because like Sureloss mentioned earlier, the league has already spoken out saying they will be monitoring such things closely (...who knows what that will look like - but it's still a risk).

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You can easily protect both.

Johnny
Monahan
Bennett
Backlund
Frolik
Brouwer
Ferland

Expose Bouma and Stajan. Was there another forward you wanted to protect? Maybe a signed Versteeg?
Why protect Brouwer though given he's had minimal impact on the team? If he doesn't get picked up you hope that he plays better next season but if he does get picked up you free up $4 million to spend on a player that's going to have more impact for your team. I can see why Treliving brought in Brouwer but in his first season the return has not been worth the price so if you have a chance to move on why wouldn't you use that? He's the type of player an expansion team may want to add like say Scott Mellanby was for the Panthers.
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...why are people still talking about trading Giordano?
Because they want us to go full Oilers?

I agree, this team is significantly worse without Gio and the moment you move him you'd have to start looking for a replacement for him (which aren't available....ever!).

Stupid Gio talk is stupid.
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Why protect Brouwer though given he's had minimal impact on the team? If he doesn't get picked up you hope that he plays better next season but if he does get picked up you free up $4 million to spend on a player that's going to have more impact for your team. I can see why Treliving brought in Brouwer but in his first season the return has not been worth the price so if you have a chance to move on why wouldn't you use that? He's the type of player an expansion team may want to add like say Scott Mellanby was for the Panthers.
I agree with most of what you said. He has been a disappointment so far and I think he would be the first to say so. I think he's been noticeably better over the past 10 games or so and if he plays that way the rest of the year I have no issue with him. He needs to make up for his lack of point production with nasty, mean, face washing play.

The bolded part of your statement. Who do you envision filling this role? Looking at UFA right wingers is pretty sad. TJ Oshie and Radulov are probably the best of the bunch but I think both will resign with their respective clubs. It's really easy to say $4m is better spent else where, but on who?
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I agree with most of what you said. He has been a disappointment so far and I think he would be the first to say so. I think he's been noticeably better over the past 10 games or so and if he plays that way the rest of the year I have no issue with him. He needs to make up for his lack of point production with nasty, mean, face washing play.

The bolded part of your statement. Who do you envision filling this role? Looking at UFA right wingers is pretty sad. TJ Oshie and Radulov are probably the best of the bunch but I think both will resign with their respective clubs. It's really easy to say $4m is better spent else where, but on who?
To add to this, Brouwer was just getting into a good groove when he broke his hand, then it took him a little while to get going again.
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