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Old 12-07-2016, 11:49 AM   #581
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Revere was crap last year, but depending on splits, could be a good Melvin platoon.
I'm sorry to say he was equally awful against both L & R. Revere was so bad that the only kind of contract I'd want the Jays to offer would be a minor league deal with invite to spring training... he was really really bad.

The guy I want most is Fowler, after that Bautista (with the understanding that he'll be playing LF/1B).
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Old 12-07-2016, 11:53 AM   #582
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I'd like to see Bautista move on. That Odor punch pretty much sealed it for me. Not his fault. He took the punch but now it's all I see when I think about him. He needs a change of scenery too imo.
What kinda reason is that lol...he got punched in the face so he needs to move on?
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Old 12-07-2016, 12:34 PM   #583
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I didn't say it was a good reason! I'm just talking for me. Nothing against the guy but, for me personally, I'd be happy to see him move on and get a fresh start.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:17 PM   #584
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I don't remember the jays offering him a contract st the beginning of the season. I can't find a link either
Because he said he didn't want to negotiate. He gave them a number and it was do or die.

He should have taken some offers back and not be so hard to deal with. Biting him in the butt now.
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:31 PM   #586
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Because he said he didn't want to negotiate. He gave them a number and it was do or die.

He should have taken some offers back and not be so hard to deal with. Biting him in the butt now.
Well I'm glad someone who doesn't get hurt feelings from a player's perspective isn't running this team.

On Oberholtzer - decent enough swing man out of the pen. I like that he is a lefty.

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Old 12-07-2016, 02:46 PM   #587
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Man, that Ian Desmond to the Rockies signing is insane and makes little to no sense.

First, they give up the 11th. Second, Desmond was trash after the all star break.

It sounds like, barring trade, they plan on playing him at 1st base which is insane.

If not, it could open up a guy like CarGo or Blackmon for trade!
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Old 12-07-2016, 02:49 PM   #588
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Adam Eaton to the Nats...

For Giolito!

White Sox doing well selling the farm so far.

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Old 12-07-2016, 02:51 PM   #589
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I'm sorry to say he was equally awful against both L & R. Revere was so bad that the only kind of contract I'd want the Jays to offer would be a minor league deal with invite to spring training... he was really really bad.

The guy I want most is Fowler, after that Bautista (with the understanding that he'll be playing LF/1B).
Revere suffered an injury on opening day IIRC, then never got it together. Prior to that his worst season in the majors saw him hit .267. It's not hard to think that perhaps that injury lingered or caused him to change his swing. But Revere also hit .319 with the Jays in the regular season after being acquired, so it's also not hard to think that with our hitting coach being familiar with him that they could get his swing back to where it was.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:02 PM   #590
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Come on Eddie choose Toronto! You're our guy! You always have been! You love it there. Then we sign Fowler and trade Pillar to the Rangers for some bullpen help and boom 2017 Jays WS Champs.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:17 PM   #592
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Revere suffered an injury on opening day IIRC, then never got it together. Prior to that his worst season in the majors saw him hit .267. It's not hard to think that perhaps that injury lingered or caused him to change his swing. But Revere also hit .319 with the Jays in the regular season after being acquired, so it's also not hard to think that with our hitting coach being familiar with him that they could get his swing back to where it was.
Yeah, but he doesn't get on base well even when he hit's 300... he's a no power hacker. I could live with that if he had Pillar like Defense but he doesn't have Pillar like defense.

He's the kind of guy I want in my back pocket (in this case Buffalo) not on my opening day roster.

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For Giolito!

White Sox doing well selling the farm so far.
Long overdue for them. I wonder where they send Abreu, Quintana and Melky? And really they're buying the farm.

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Yeah, but he doesn't get on base well even when he hit's 300... he's a no power hacker. I could live with that if he had Pillar like Defense but he doesn't have Pillar like defense.

He's the kind of guy I want in my back pocket (in this case Buffalo) not on my opening day roster.



Long overdue for them. I wonder where they send Abreu, Quintana and Melky?
Maybe the Jays could land Quintana. My winter of dreams and fantasies continues.
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Old 12-07-2016, 03:56 PM   #594
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Unlikely that's the case. The reality is that teams are generally professional. Do you think anyone calls anyone up to tell them that? Jose's agent likely doesn't have to call up teams to drum up interest, so how would a story like that be out there? Likely Baltimore fans throwing out a BS line to just stick it to Jose again.
Straight from Dan Duquette.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/1...-jose-bautista
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Honestly, that's a fair comment.

what if the Flames went out and got Kessler or Bieksa.

While he is certainly a good player, fans might not really want to make a trade for Rougned Odor - especially if he was 35 years old and on the end of his career.
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what if the Flames went out and got Kesler or Bieksa.
The Flames went out and got Bertuzzi... no one cared a week later.
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Musing here... I wonder what the cost to get Jarrod Dyson from the Royals would be?
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Old 12-07-2016, 04:38 PM   #599
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The Flames went out and got Bertuzzi... no one cared a week later.
After he played in Florida for a few seasons.
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And conflicting reports now on EE

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Blue Jays general manager Ross Atkins said that the chances of re-signing Edwin Encarnacion are looking dim.
"If there's a way [to bring him back], I don't see it. I don't think [Encarnacion's agent Paul Kinzer] sees it either but we haven't stopped trying," Atkins said. The Indians and Rangers are two teams linked to Encarnacion, though USA Today's Bob Nightengale reported earlier on Wednesday that the Rangers may not have the money to bring him into the fold. The veteran slugger looks unlikely to sign with a team before the end of the Winter Meetings. Toronto is moving forward with recent additions Kendrys Morales and Steve Pearce.
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