11-08-2016, 10:13 AM
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#21
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Hallelujah.
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11-08-2016, 10:13 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
If every black mark comes in the form of a 7th/8th defenceman making league minimum, I think we're in good shape.
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I know. But you had Nakladal and Schlemko staring at you in the face.
Not only that, but Grossman could not play hockey. He is seriously horrible. How does he get an effing contract and see ice time? Brutal, IMO.
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11-08-2016, 10:15 AM
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#23
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Sorry Stockton
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11-08-2016, 10:15 AM
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#24
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I'd rather have Kulak over Nak/Schlemko so that's not a huge black mark for Treliving IMO. You can also thank Johnny for handcuffing Brad if you want to blame him for Nak walking.
Last edited by Otto-matic; 11-08-2016 at 10:19 AM.
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11-08-2016, 10:16 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
I know. But you had Nakladal and Schlemko staring at you in the face.
Not only that, but Grossman could not play hockey. He is seriously horrible. How does he get an effing contract and see ice time? Brutal, IMO.
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Schlemko signed a 4 year deal at a $2.1 million per cap hit.. The great Nakladal has barely played. Some posters are acting like Grossman was in for every game. He played 3. 2 were brutal and 1 was okay. IMO he didn't cost the flames any points in the 2 losses. They would have lost both those games anyway.
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11-08-2016, 10:17 AM
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#26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
I know. But you had Nakladal and Schlemko staring at you in the face.
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Yeah, I'm not sold on Nakladal being much, but Schlemko looked great here and looks great on the Sharks. Definitely more than a 7th guy and they probably could have kept him for a song. That was a mistake.
Bottom pairing D don't mean a lot... unless your top pairing D suddenly play like garbage.
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11-08-2016, 10:17 AM
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#27
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
Good bye Grossman. No hard feelings, but this was long overdue and it's embarrassing the Flames even offered him a deal, and even more embarrassing he saw ice time.
This is a black mark on Treliving's tenure as far as I am concerned.
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Comments like this just go to show how clueless some posters are. The only reason Grossmann was signed is because he was willing to sign for a very specific dollar amount which in turn gave the Flames the maximum relief possible from Smid being out on LTIR.
I won't defend Gulutzan for playing Grossmann though. This is on him and not BT.
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11-08-2016, 10:18 AM
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#28
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Location: Vancouver
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So which player are people going to pick to hate on now?
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11-08-2016, 10:18 AM
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#29
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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Schlemko already stated he wasn't going to sign here with the logjam we had on D. He also said the Flames tried to move a d-man to fit him in but couldn't do it.
Let it go already.
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11-08-2016, 10:19 AM
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#30
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Location: Calgary
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so grossmann goes down and Hathaway likely comes up?
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11-08-2016, 10:20 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
So which player are people going to pick to hate on now?
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You know what they say.
More responsibility more accountability.
Oh wait.
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11-08-2016, 10:20 AM
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#32
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
Good bye Grossman. No hard feelings, but this was long overdue and it's embarrassing the Flames even offered him a deal, and even more embarrassing he saw ice time.
This is a black mark on Treliving's tenure as far as I am concerned.
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I honestly think they needed to find a person to take the exact salary that he agreed to in order to maximize the benefit of LTIR.
With his contact below that threshold (750k?) they can now send him to the farm without any cap impact.
If that's a dark mark then I think we need to cut a wider swath as it doesn't really impact the team.
Who's call to actually play him is the next thing. Did Treliving force that on Gulutzan or did Gulutzan want some more beef on the backend? He's here so why not try him?
I know he's a good man, and great in the room, so there's that too.
Hopefully this was always a discussed possibility and he's fully aware of the fact that this could happen.
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11-08-2016, 10:21 AM
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#33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
Comments like this just go to show how clueless some posters are. The only reason Grossmann was signed is because he was willing to sign for a very specific dollar amount which in turn gave the Flames the maximum relief possible from Smid being out on LTIR.
I won't defend Gulutzan for playing Grossmann though. This is on him and not BT.
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I'm clueless because I didn't think Grossman deserved even the league min? Guess what? The GM agrees with me because he just waived him.
I'm arguing that the GM made a mistake signing him in the first place. The GM has now realized his mistake and cut him.
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11-08-2016, 10:21 AM
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#34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Schlemko already stated he wasn't going to sign here with the logjam we had on D. He also said the Flames tried to move a d-man to fit him in but couldn't do it.
Let it go already.
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Let's move on to discussing Byron's departure.
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11-08-2016, 10:23 AM
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#35
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Sorry why did we sign this guy?
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11-08-2016, 10:24 AM
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#36
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Next season Grossman will sign with the Kings and score 2 goals against the Flames en route to a 5-0 drubbing.
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11-08-2016, 10:24 AM
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#37
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Schlemko already stated he wasn't going to sign here with the logjam we had on D. He also said the Flames tried to move a d-man to fit him in but couldn't do it.
Let it go already.
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Which all happened last year. It's really time to let it go.
Last season, he was signed for a cheap one-year deal just before the start of Training Camp. This year, he signed a four-year, $2.1 million contract on July 1.
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11-08-2016, 10:25 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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if (lol) he clears, how much does his salary affect the team's cap?
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11-08-2016, 10:26 AM
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#39
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Franchise Player
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Finally...now that Grossman is gone, PP will be amazing, PK will stop teams, Bennett will stop taking dumb penalties, Brodie will start making smart plays, Gaudreau will start to pass the puck, Monahan will get his scoring ability back, Elliott/Johnson will make timely saves, Giordano will hit the net with his shot...lets all rejoice!
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11-08-2016, 10:26 AM
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#40
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Likely the end for him in the NHL
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