The 2016 US American Election Thread

[Senator Clay Davis]

If you're on Twitter, or even if you're not and you maybe just wanna check out the craziest Trump cultist there is, here you go. It's getting funnier and funnier somehow.

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii

[photon]

Oversampling is the new skewing.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

If you're on Twitter, or even if you're not and you maybe just wanna check out the craziest Trump cultist there is, here you go. It's getting funnier and funnier somehow.

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii

Crazier than Alex Jones? Wow, that's impressive.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Crazier than Alex Jones? Wow, that's impressive.

He thinks Trump is inviting him to the inauguration.

[wittynickname]

With regards to the firebombing of the GOP office in North Carolina, NC Democrats set up a GoFundMe page to help them reopen, and they've already met (and exceeded) their goal. Kind of a nice moment of awareness in such an ugly campaign.

https://www.gofundme.com/reopen-a-nc...ffice-2ukuprzy

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I think I'm probably being too hard on Photon, who might in retrospect have preferred if he'd worded his post differently.

I don't think that could come off any more arrogant if you tried, lol. "I was too hard on him, but I'm sure he'd be better if he had a do over".

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Hahaha, okay... I know you don't like me, but I was just trying to be fair to a guy who wrote a one sentence post only to have it result in a page of argument over his choice of one word, which seemed like a bit much.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Hahaha, okay... I know you don't like me, but I was just trying to be fair to a guy who wrote a one sentence post only to have it result in a page of argument over his choice of one word, which seemed like a bit much.

I'm way more chill than I come off when I type this stuff. It just made me laugh while reading it, that's all.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Gozer

Ginormous Bernie photo.

I love me some Bernie, but I would prefer Warren myself.

[photon]

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...14045755461633

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by photon

https://twitter.com/RadioFreeTom/sta...14045755461633

Damn. Tom Nichols's cat is dead on there. He's now openly supporting those who would encourage violence if they don't get their way on election day.

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
The election is absolutely being rigged by the dishonest and distorted media pushing Crooked Hillary - but also at many polling places - SAD
11:01 AM - 16 Oct 2016

I'm actually almost willing to consider whether it might be better for everyone if someone simply killed him in the next week or so. I mean, the answer is still no - for one thing, it might galvanize support for Pence, and for another, it's important that he lose definitively and absolutely at the ballot box. But frankly, there isn't a firm enough form of repudiation for this complete piece of garbage. The fact that it's almost worth talking about is... ugh.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I love that a Trump supporter is complaining about people playing the victim. Does anyone live in perpetual victimhood more than Trump supporters? Literally everything to them is the fault of someone else, generally those perpetuating mass conspiracies. Illiminaughty is actually pretty funny if you think about it.

What are you talking about, all of this victimhood stems from the ultra left. Somebody made me feel bad and now I want legislation to protect me from hurt feelings. That's not a conservative view point. Pointing out that the establishment obviously wants Hillary to win, isn't playing the victim.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Once again, this argument that these two candidates are equally bad, or that Hillary is somehow worse than Trump, is completely absurd to any normal, intelligent, sensible human being. Do your homework, dude. Her list of political accomplishments is pretty damn extensive. And for the record, I'm not even a big Clinton supporter. Like most people, I would have much preferred Bernie. Like most folks in this thread, I'm simply anti-Trump. The guy is a childish, bigoted, sexist assclown who has zero grasp of the real world, and would likely set that country back 50 years.

Has Hillary made mistakes over the years? Definitely. No politician has a spot free resume, especially when you've been in the game as long as she has. Is she qualified to be President? Absolutely. And when comparing these two candidates, she's clearly the best option for the U.S. moving forward.

She has a history of lies, flip flopping, scandal, breaches of ethics, war mongering. I've done my homework, maybe you should try learning something that isn't posted by msnbc. All of her crimes are being suppressed by her powerful friends.

Name one positive policy that she has been behind since she's been involved in government? She has experience, experience of screwing up or is it intentional, either way it isn't good.

Is Trump a bigot, yeah likely a bit, I'll give you that. Hillary would know too, why she's stayed married to an even bigger one and can have any self respect is beyond me.

Bernie would have been terrible for the US, still likely not as bad as Hillary though.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by GGG

She lies about everything. -- that is a false exaggeration. You need to show she lies more than the typical Washington politician or at least lies more than Trump for that to be a reason Hillary shouldn't serve as president. Polo fact puts Trump at 70% lies and Hillary at 30%.

You say her policies won't work. Which one of her policies won't work and how would Trumps policies be better.

Please provide in context the full tape about getting the child rapist off. Listen to the entire uncut tape and she does not laugh at getting him off. Also are you aware why she was defending a child rapist?

What do you see as the alternative that his better than 4 more years of Obama?

I don't think anyone in this thread believes that Hillary is a great choice for president. However, I don't believe it is debatable that she is a superior choice to Trump.

Yes politicians lie, especially career politicians like Hillary who get massive donations from corporate sources. That's one valid reason to vote for Trump over Hillary.Look at her track record dude, it's all there. Wasn't she caught lying about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia? The video tape shows otherwise. She's clearly lying about these emails and somehow escapes prosecution, oh right she got a get out of jail free card from her buddy Obama. She's at best far to incompetent to be president, or she's a just lying criminal shill. Neither is acceptable.

Obama was a disaster, oh but he inherited a mess from Bush right, yeah but he made it even worse. The debt has gone up, the middle east is even more of a mess, racial tension and police tensions have never been higher. Now you have Hillary alluding to going to war with Russia WTF?

She wants to raise taxes and get more money for the government to piss away. You raise taxes and the people have less income to spend, so the economy suffers. If taxes get lowered, maybe businesses will come back and more jobs will be created, at the very least more businesses will be able to stay open or won't leave for other countries. Guaranteeing student loans has only resulted in the price of education to keep going up, that's what happens when you guarantee something, the providers will keep raising the price. Can anybody even defend Obamacare at this point? It needs to be scrapped and actually Trump gave a decent alternative plan at the last debate.

I've listened to the whole tape, and she's laughing about him passing the polygraph and him getting off. Yes I know how public defenders work, it's still despicable defending somebody that did that to a child, somebody that you know for a fact was guilty and you laugh about it. Shame Hillary shame on you.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by Drak

The argument that women aren't filing lawsuits en masse due to wage inequality, therefore that proves there is no wage inequality, doesn't make sense.

1. It takes time to file a lawsuit
2. It creates conflict with the employer - you can probably kiss your job goodbye and join the unemployment line
3. It's expensive
4. Employers are protected against lawsuits

1. How long? Not that long, not ten years long. Maybe two at most.
2. Oh well, you'll likely be filthy rich
3. Find a lawyer that will do it for a percentage of the settlement. I bet you could even find a lawyer that would do it for free.
4. They aren't protected against civil lawsuits of discrimination.

It makes total sense, you are just blinded by your perceived moral superiority to see it clearly.

[peter12]

This would all be relevant criticism if anyone by Donald Trump was running for the GOP. Anyone.

[Plett25]

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Much better

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by ernie

It also requires a single company to be doing the discriminatory act. An individual company may not be discriminatory but the market as a whole can be. It has been shown that end are hired preferentially even if through unconscious bias and as such on the whole women will be hired into the less preferred job (same with minorities). This does result in a wage gap. In addition, women are unproprortionately punished for parental leave or temporarily leaving the workforce. Yes that impacts future earnings and even when taken into account those family things it does not fully account for the wage disparity. Furthermore, women are often seen as less productive and in incentive based performance will receive less even if they did the same or more. It is very real.

Your list is also correct as to why things are often not pursued.

It is fair to say it has become more nuanced than the straight up systemic racism in law enforcement. And that it isn't nearly as bad as it was but there is still a discrepancy.

How can the market as a whole be allowed to operate under discriminatory practices in this modern day? Oh and I'm the tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist, wow! Law works on precedent or didn't you know?

If you were hiring crab fisherman to work in the Bering Sea, who are you more likely to hire? Is that going to be an unconscious bias?

Maybe it has nothing to do with gender or race and has everything to do with qualifications and merit. Yes since women are the only gender that can carry, then nourish infant children, I guess it would make sense for them to stay home for several months caring for their children.

Here, google the definitions between wages and earnings. That should clarify it for you.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

He's got recent profile pictures including the racist frog and Donald in what appears to be German WW2 era military dress.

Doesn't strike me as made up either - he strikes me as a neo nazi.

Or a troll.

[Illuminaughty]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

I'd like to be the better man and agree with you but frankly got into many punch ups with national front supporters when I was a teen, I have no problem with nazis and KKK morons getting a beating.

Of course you don't, because you are a left wing fascist of questionable character. How do you know this guy or his personal beliefs?