[News] Treliving press conference 2:30pm

[locsofblu]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Yeah, a CAP team with a lot of overpaid depth players still.

Wideman, Engelland, Smid account for $12 million that will expire after next season.

Stajan and his $3+ the year after that.

Ya that's right. I forgot there's a lot of fluff coming off the books. Thank Christ!

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Par

So can we say the Flames are done for the day.

Unless a team who missed out on signing a D wants to acquire Wideman

[locsofblu]

Originally Posted by getbak

TSN showed them getting the new jerseys ready, so it does look like they'll be there.

New jerseys?

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by locsofblu

New jerseys?

For Brouwer and Johnson.

[Roof-Daddy]

I don't see any more Flames UFA signings coming.

Just AHL type signings like Derek Grant last year. Would still like to see Nakladal signed though, but won't fret too much if signs elsewhere.

Big bodied veteran RW and a back up goalie were our big needs and they've been addressed.

[getbak]

Wideman probably won't be in play until Demers signs somewhere.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

15 mill. If Smid goes to LTIR then 18.5 mill.

Do they have to be under first, and then get LTIR?

[locsofblu]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

For Brouwer and Johnson.

Lol. Im out of it today. Yes ofcourse.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

$14.9 million with Gaudreau and Monahan still needing to be signed

http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/calgary-flames

The 3-5m in ELC bonuses (depending on tkachuk) don't count against the current cap, but if they are paid and the flames don't have unused cap room from this year would be applied to next year. Do I have that right?

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Bend it like Bourgeois

The 3-5m in ELC bonuses (depending on tkachuk) don't count against the current cap, but if they are paid and the flames don't have unused cap room from this year would be applied to next year. Do I have that right?

Yep. Overage penalties.

I'll be curious to hear if Treliving has anything of substance to say about Colborne.

[Roof-Daddy]

Chiasson - 6'3 215lb physical right shot RW
Brouwer - 6'3 215lb physical right shot RW

Elliot .930 save %
Johnson .920 save%

BT pretty much plugging the biggest holes on the ship.

[Roof-Daddy]

Here's how I have it currently with estimated RFA signings, and before any potential trades.

1. Gaudreau (6,750,000) - Monahan (6,250,000) - Brouwer (4,500,000)
2. M Stajan (3,125,000) - Backlund (3,575,000) - M Frolik (4,300,000)
3. Shinkaruk (863,333) - S. Bennett (925,000) - Chiasson (800,000)
4. M. Ferland (825,000) - L. Bouma (2,200,000) - Hathaway (690,000)

Extra - Bollig (1,250,000) - F Hamilton (725,000)
Buy out - Raymond (1,050,000)

1. Giordano (6,750,000) - D Hamilton (5,750,000)
2. TJ Brodie (4,650,400) - Wideman (5,250,000)
3. Jokipakka (900,000) - Engelland (2,916,667)

Extra - Smid (3,500,000) - Wotherpoon (875,000)

1. B. Elliot (2,500,000)
2. Johnson (1,700,000)

Total Cap - $71,570,400 ($1,429,600 cap space)

[Bunk]

Clearing Wideman's big salary would be of help.

[Frank MetaMusil]

^^ I doubt you get Monahan at 6.25 when Brouwer just got 4.5. I think he's closer to 7, and Gaudreau closer to 8.

[getbak]

If Russell signs for the rumoured $5M+, you have to think that makes Wideman look more affordable to other teams.

[PepsiFree]

Regardless of what you think of how much money went in or out...

The Flames got significantly better over the past two weeks. Looking forward to the season.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

^^ I doubt you get Monahan at 6.25 when Brouwer just got 4.5. I think he's closer to 7, and Gaudreau closer to 8.

They are not comparable in any way shape or form.

You don't compare 10 year veteran UFA's to 2-3 year RFA's when it comes to contract negotiations.

They might get a little more, but it won't be because of what Brouwer just got.

Monahan's best recent comparable is Barkov ($5.9 AAV)
Gaudreau's best recent comparable is Tarasenko ($7.5 AAV)

[FeyWest]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Chiasson - 6'3 215lb physical right shot RW
Brouwer - 6'3 215lb physical right shot RW

Elliot .930 save %
Johnson .920 save%

BT pretty much plugging the biggest holes on the ship.

Fully agree, gotta start somewhere right, doesn't make sense to build (Sail) on a sinking ship afterall. Maybe or maybe not optimal choices for wingers but I think it makes us much tougher to play against and that has been one of our biggest knocks.

Can Brouwer and Chiasson skate? I like the decent speed with size model over massive/slow or tiny/speedy way a team is built and I think both Chiasson and Brouwer add in a positive direction for us.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

^^ I doubt you get Monahan at 6.25 when Brouwer just got 4.5. I think he's closer to 7, and Gaudreau closer to 8.

You're comparing RFAs to an UFA. They aren't comparable. Gaudreau/Monahan are comparable to other young RFAs like Barkov, Tarasenko and Forsberg

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Here's how I have it currently with estimated RFA signings, and before any potential trades.

1. Gaudreau (6,750,000) - Monahan (6,250,000) - Brouwer (4,500,000)

Gaudreau's comparables make his deal pretty easy, if it's 8 years (which it should be) - 8 years, 7.5M.

Monahan, look at Barkov, add 2 UFA years, and I'd say 8 years at 6.75M is solid.