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			so who is going to play with johnny and mony? Ferland again? 
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				If that turned into our 2nd line, man, I don't envy anyone trying to play against them in 2 years time. 
			
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				Bob McKenzie @TSNBobMcKenzie 
Brouwer to CGY. Four years, $4.5M AAV. 
			
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			I don't mind the term, AVV is higher then I'd like.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2016, 11:35 AM
			
			
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				I hate to burst your bubble, but every team will always have at least one player who is overpaid or otherwise exists even though you hate them.  If you're expecting the Flames, or anyone else, to ever have 23 perfect contracts, you're just deluding yourself. 
 
This deal is, frankly, market value for a guy who adds size and whom you expect will put up 20 goals.  It's not a steal, but Treliving isn't always going to rob another team or agent blind. 
			
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I agree that it's market value. But the flames have 4 players that are overpaid this coming season.
 
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				because huds has proven chemistry with johnny and money and will put up more its than brouwer with them 
			
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Ya and Huds is soft as baby ****.  This team desperately needs to get harder to play against.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-01-2016, 11:35 AM
			
			
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				How many people that hate the move have watched much of Brouwer? The guy is a beast, a right handed, much more skilled Bouma. Total warrior, gives 110% ever shift. 
			
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			Maybe a bit of an overpayment but the Flames have to start moving in this direction with players of this style. Hanging all the hopes on the top 3 forwards and then offering no push back or leadership and being happy with anything the bottom nine forwards can provide is not a good recipe.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Early Glencross , end of career Glencross ? 
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			Comparing Glencross to Brouwer is a joke. Brouwer actually plays with grit and heart more than once every 10 games and not just against the Oilers. Two players are nothing alike.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Frolik is also a way better hockey player than Brouwer, IMO. 
			
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			Pretty happy with this signing, he's the type of player you hate playing against but love on your team. Welcome to the Flames!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Should have ask him to take a hometown discount. He is building a house here to retire and he was here at a gym doing some upside down yoga. Do not know how to post the pick but you can google it. I guess more upside down yoga for him
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			Like the signing. 1 year too long but that is being petty. 
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				Comparing Glencross to Brouwer is a joke. Brouwer actually plays with grit and heart more than once every 10 games and not just against the Oilers. Two players are nothing alike. 
			
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			I understand the trepidation with any FA signing, especially for a physical winger over 30 who isn't purely skilled. However, I think people will realize that this is a perfect complimentary piece to make this team much more difficult to play against next year. Along with a guy like Chiasson, possibly Hathaway, a healthy Bouma etc. 
 
Flames will be fast and skilled, along with a healthy dose of effective grinder type players. I am really liking the composition of this team heading into next year. 
 
Brad Treliving has done a wonderful job so far filling the obvious gaps on this team. This is going to be a pretty fun team to watch this year, and should be in the playoff mix without much trouble.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Comparing Glencross to Brouwer is a joke. Brouwer actually plays with grit and heart more than once every 10 games and not just against the Oilers. Two players are nothing alike. 
			
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One big plus for Brouwer is his durability. Glencross was definitely on the fragile side.
 
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				Best value signing of the day so far imo. Decent money and good term.
			
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From HF, sure not the place of brighest minds, but 90% of people there think it's a good, fair deal. Not a steal, but a fair contract.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Flames sign Brouwer (4 yrs, $4.5mil AAV)
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			Flames balked at basically this contract for Glencross and then gave a player with similar results the same deal 1 summer later   
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