Alberta Politics Thread

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Locke

Incorrect. That implies Capitalism of some sort.

At Camp 'Joy From Labour' its all about making large rocks into smaller rocks in order to provide the labour force the raw materials to pave roads.

Commrade we shall be the leader in hand milled organic paving stones.

All hail dear leader Notley

[EldrickOnIce]

Raising corporate taxes can hurt provincial economies: University of Calgary study

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/c...tudy-1.3494248

In other news: Sky blue, grass green

[Regorium]

Zero corporate tax makes a lot of sense. Make it up with VAT or PST.

However, while it's economically rational, it'd be complete political suicide.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Raising corporate taxes can hurt provincial economies: University of Calgary study

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/c...tudy-1.3494248

In other news: Sky blue, grass green

Dahlby said the five other provinces — Alberta, Ontario, British Columbia, Manitoba and Quebec — all paid dearly for the decision to hit corporations with higher taxes by sacrificing what could have been significant gains had they sought to raise the same amount of revenue through higher sales taxes.

Dahlby said it would boost the Canadian economy if corporate tax rates were dropped by up to 10 per cent right across the country.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Raising corporate taxes can hurt provincial economies: University of Calgary study

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/c...tudy-1.3494248

In other news: Sky blue, grass green

Wow, no way, an economic suppressor harms the economy?

Again, and I mentioned this almost immediately after the NDP took office: They instituted economic suppressors to a receding economy in the form of higher personal and corporate taxes, higher minimum wages and the royalty review.

Further, raising taxes when an economy is in recession is not only poor policy its straight up idiotic and demonstrates a clear lack of understanding of basic economics and prioritizing ideology over practicality.

Its about declining balances. The Government sees tax revenue as a fixed point despite the fact that it is isnt, its a percentage of revenue which is by definition a variable.

In order to maintain their 'fixed point' theory they raise their percentage of revenue to match the declining revenue pool trying to tax their way out of the hole and stifling the growth.

"We need 'X' number of dollars so we'll just increase the rate until we get the number we want while forgetting all other variables."

[VladtheImpaler]

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This bourgeois saboteur should be locked for spreading disinformation injurious to the party and motherland.

[Azure]

Would be pretty strange if Manitoba elects a Conservative government in our upcoming provincial election and Alberta elected a NDP government.

Would we be ahead or behind of Alberta?

[Resolute 14]

Lots of fun news today.

Insights West poll finds that two-thirds of respondents do not believe the NDP will be re-elected in 2019. This includes over half of people who identified as having voted NDP.

Wildrose MLA Don MacIntyre documents all the extremists Notley has brought in from elsewhere, and she's miffed.

Buried at the end is something so obvious that even Notley should have been able to figure it out: Let journalists determine who are journalists. The government should just butt out.

So here’s a $9,500 report from former newshound Heather Boyd recommending who should be accredited as media covering provincial politics.

The finding? The government should butt out and let journalists decide.

This taxpayer-funded navel gaze was cooked up after the Notley NDP tried to play the heavy wth The Rebel, a right-wing website.

Notley government officials excluded The Rebel from press privileges because they feel they’re a rabble-rousing pain in the butt.

But they can’t say that so they explained it was because The Rebel’s numero uno Ezra Levant is a pundit and not a reporter.

The boss at The Rebel isn’t a reporter so The Rebel reporters aren’t reporters.

Go figure.

Looking like fools across Canada, the Notley NDP admitted they screwed up and passed the buck — or 9,500 bucks — to Boyd.

(Sorry about the Rick Bell article though)

[PsYcNeT]

I'm glad Notley finally decided to raise the price of oil.

[Resolute 14]

It is noted that you are incapable of responding to any of the points raised by any of these news stories, Psycnet.

[jayswin]

The key with Psycnet is that he's quite intelligent and could be a great contributor but has hinted in the past that he just ****s around with CP. It's unfortunate and annoying, but he's basically just here to troll those he disagrees with, he's part of bigger message boards and this board obviously means very little him.

[Violator]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...gize-1.3492578

NDP MLA flips Wildrose MLA the bird in the leg, lies to the deputy speaker about it, lies to the media about it, but gets busted because the sergeant-at-arms saw him do it. So Notley marches him out to recite a pre-prepared apology and praises him for "taking responsibility".

[MrMastodonFarm]

I laughed, you guys need to chill. It was no different or flippant than Vlad's comment above it.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I'm glad Notley finally decided to raise the price of oil.

I like this line of deflection. So nothing matters.

A monkey could run this Province with the cooperation of the price of Oil. So is Notley better or worse than the average Monkey?

Every time an issue arises just say: 'It doesnt matter because of the price of Oil.'

Thanks for your participation.

[Bootsy]

Originally Posted by Locke

I like this line of deflection. So nothing matters.

A monkey could run this Province with the cooperation of the price of Oil. So is Notley better or worse than the average Monkey?

Every time an issue arises just say: 'It doesnt matter because of the price of Oil.'

Thanks for your participation.

They basically have two responses, if its not the price of oil it's "Can't blame us , it's the previous government's fault"

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

They basically have two responses, if its not the price of oil it's "Can't blame us , it's the previous government's fault"

Is it true?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Bootsy

They basically have two responses, if its not the price of oil it's "Can't blame us , it's the previous government's fault"

I'm no fan or voter for the NDP, but those aren't exactly flimsy responses.

The NDP has been in power for less than a year. The Conservatives were in power for the previous 43 years. They did set us up for this.

If the Conservatives were still in power, we'd still be in the same position. The corruption would just be the cherry on top!

I'll wait for the NDP to actually screw it up before I blame them for this mess. If they get the chance, I have no doubt they will. But right now, it is the price of oil, and it is the previous government's fault.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I'm no fan or voter for the NDP, but those aren't exactly flimsy responses.

The NDP has been in power for less than a year. The Conservatives were in power for the previous 43 years. They did set us up for this.

If the Conservatives were still in power, we'd still be in the same position. The corruption would just be the cherry on top!

I'll wait for the NDP to actually screw it up before I blame them for this mess. If they get the chance, I have no doubt they will. But right now, it is the price of oil, and it is the previous government's fault.

Yeah, but where have they shown any good leadership, or a plan to try to mitigate any problems.

Governing isn't about assigning responsibility it's about working with what you have and trying to produce the best outcome. A full year of "It's not our fault" isn't just bad governing, it's a complete lack of it.

They certainly can't fix all of our problems right now, but at least show some movement on fixing ANY problems. So far it's been a lot of complaining about the price of oil and the previous government, and a complete lack of a plan to move forward and address the issues at hand.

This is a great example of "It's not your fault, but it is your problem".
So thanks NDP, you've successfully spent the last year convincing us that it's not your fault....do you have anything else to say/do?

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

Yeah, but where have they shown any good leadership, or a plan to try to mitigate any problems.

Governing isn't about assigning responsibility it's about working with what you have and trying to produce the best outcome. A full year of "It's not our fault" isn't just bad governing, it's a complete lack of it.

They certainly can't fix all of our problems right now, but at least show some movement on fixing ANY problems. So far it's been a lot of complaining about the price of oil and the previous government, and a complete lack of a plan to move forward and address the issues at hand.

This is a great example of "It's not your fault, but it is your problem".
So thanks NDP, you've successfully spent the last year convincing us that it's not your fault....do you have anything else to say/do?

Yeah, understood. Their dithering and dicking around is annoying as hell, but I just don't think they could have done anything that would have made much of a difference. I don't think anyone could have. This is what we've set ourselves up for.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Yeah, understood. Their dithering and dicking around is annoying as hell, but I just don't think they could have done anything that would have made much of a difference. I don't think anyone could have. This is what we've set ourselves up for.

Then it doesnt matter and we dont need them. Lets save our tax dollars and just not have any Government at all.

If theres nothing anyone can do then lets everyone do nothing and call it a day.