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Old 02-18-2016, 03:03 PM   #3661
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:05 PM   #3662
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:15 PM   #3663
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Hypothetical match up polling for the general election isn't reliable at this point in time so saying he's close or leading in this state or that state really doesn't mean much. Remember, he has had zero luck increasing his polling within his own party where over 50% of party members do not want to see him as their nominee. He has a farily firm 30-35% of the GOP vote, however, the interesting thing is that for the most part many caucus voters are undecided up to a day or two before the vote and he's not winning of those undecideds. Basically, the undecided voters are only undecided on who they will vote for instead of Trump.

If he wins the nomination it will be a very unmotivated GOP base and even hatred of Hillary isn't going to stir them. They will be busily looking inward at the way the party is working and not concentrating on helping Trump one bit.

Meanwhile, Trump will lose the women vote and any minority vote by a large margin. He'll also lose the independent vote. He's despised by these groups not simply "unknown" to them. If he gets the nomination it'll be ad after ad of racist quotes, misogynist quotes, and quotes that he has ZERO clue how the world and the nation actually works.
Yeah, remember the Romney quote about the 47%, and how much that damaged his election campaign. And that was a far more defensible quote than the average Trump soundbite. American independent voters can be swayed by a lot of different approaches, but really heavily divisive rhetoric tends to cause a negative reaction.
I recall seeing a clip somewhere on a news network last week where they were showing undecided Republican voters some footage of Trump's rally speeches, particularly when he was going off on profanity-laden tirades. It was incredibly awkward, and you could see these people going from genuinely considering Trump to being embarrassed that they had ever considered him. Ultimately he's going to fail on the 'looks presidential' test in a big way.
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EDIT: saw this on Twitter, assumed it was new, looks like it's from Sept 2015. Still interesting.


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Old 02-18-2016, 03:42 PM   #3665
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Haahahaha what?! Is this the most circumvential anti-Semitic post ever?

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Old 02-18-2016, 03:47 PM   #3666
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I don't know who project veritas is, but I have no doubt that all the candidates are doing stuff like that, integrity is the last thing that you want to have if you want to make a living in politics.
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Old 02-18-2016, 03:50 PM   #3667
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Yeah, I feel like once he's the nominee, people will stop treating him like a joke. Because they still are, on the left. It's basically point and laugh at the circus that is the GOP nomination race, isn't it absurd. Once he's the guy, the real guns come out, and the media will absolutely demolish him. 24 hours a day, seven days a week of just pure searing criticism. He'll have no cover.
and you don't think that Hillary won't see a similar treatment, she has a trust issue, seeming integrity issues, and her main backers are the 1%.

A Hillary versus Trump battle is going to be incredibly bloody, and sleazy on both sides.

It will be a gross example of the failures of the most democratic state in the world.
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Fox has Sanders up 3 points nationally on Hillary. Who'd have thunk it?
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Old 02-18-2016, 06:57 PM   #3670
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Fox has Sanders up 3 points nationally on Hillary. Who'd have thunk it?
Link for people interested.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ationally.html

Also another poll showing Sanders would beat everyone in a general election
http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/...ice=tablet&c=y
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:22 PM   #3672
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Lol, Trump actually just did the "that's totally a photoshop, I could tell by seeing quite a few in my time."
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Old 02-18-2016, 08:33 PM   #3673
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Trump can't articulate any specific plans when challenged.
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Trump can't articulate any specific plans when challenged.
He says a whole hell of a lot without saying anything. It's difficult to watch.
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Link for people interested.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...ationally.html

Also another poll showing Sanders would beat everyone in a general election
http://www.13abc.com/home/headlines/...ice=tablet&c=y
I've gotta admit, I was really skeptical of Sanders being a viable general election candidate, but I'm really starting to come around to it. Still not totally sold on it.

Although I can't help thinking that it's largely because US demographics are largely tilting to favour Democrats in general elections, but Hillary has so much baggage that she's actually giving back a lot of that advantage.

Every candidate in the primaries on both sides fails the 'looks and acts presidential' test, IMO.
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I've gotta admit, I was really skeptical of Sanders being a viable general election candidate, but I'm really starting to come around to it. Still not totally sold on it.

Although I can't help thinking that it's largely because US demographics are largely tilting to favour Democrats in general elections, but Hillary has so much baggage that she's actually giving back a lot of that advantage.

Every candidate in the primaries on both sides fails the 'looks and acts presidential' test, IMO.
Agreed, this is a very poor group of choices for the upcoming presidential seat.

In other news, Trump has been denounced by the neocons in his own party, Levin, Beck, and the pope himself.

Seems like a pretty good endorsement to me. Too bad Trump is a egomaniac with few talking points and even fewer ideas of implimentation.

He also claims if elected president, he would declassify the 28 classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. It was enough to drag Cheney out from underneath whatever rock he's been hiding under all these years.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...alf_years.html
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Agreed, this is a very poor group of choices for the upcoming presidential seat.

In other news, Trump has been denounced by the neocons in his own party, Levin, Beck, and the pope himself.

Seems like a pretty good endorsement to me. Too bad Trump is a egomaniac with few talking points and even fewer ideas of implimentation.

He also claims if elected president, he would declassify the 28 classified pages of the 9/11 commission report. It was enough to drag Cheney out from underneath whatever rock he's been hiding under all these years.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...alf_years.html
I love that Bush and Cheney talk about keeping America safe while forgetting the four thousand Americans that died in their war that didn't need to.
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And traded in the rights of Americans in the name of safety.

A wise man once said, "Those who sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither."
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Yeah, I feel like once he's the nominee, people will stop treating him like a joke. Because they still are, on the left. It's basically point and laugh at the circus that is the GOP nomination race, isn't it absurd. Once he's the guy, the real guns come out, and the media will absolutely demolish him. 24 hours a day, seven days a week of just pure searing criticism. He'll have no cover.
I don't think so. From what I've seen Trump has the media, at least CNN and MSNBC, in his back pocket. MSNBC the left wing news channel of all things. Trump sells ads so they're on board. I guess Fox News needs to save us. Everything is upside down but maybe Bernie can return some sense to the political scene in our southern provinces.
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I wish Americans would be willing to vote for Gary Johnson en masse.

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