[PGT] No good wins 2-1 in a shootout

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by Anduril

Talbot stole the game for the Oiler's. They played bad enough to get the loss and their goalie didn't buy into the team mantra.

Flames could and probably should have had a bigger lead coming out of the first and let off the gas a little. Any offensive chance was either weak (Jooris versus 3 defenders for a long shot) or high and wide. They kept up with some measure of a forecheck with the Oiler's repeatedly turning it over like they were trying to evenly cook a spit roast but again Talbot makes key and huge saves.

That's what happened.

Calgary had the better chances but the Oilers goalie was the best goalie in the game.

Calgary knows how to play Edmonton by collapsing around the net in the defensive zone. It just happens that an Edmonton defender scored his first of the year.

Otherwise Calgary wins 1-0.

Stuff happens.

[GoJetsGo]

Yep. The shot totals were deceiving because Edmonton had very few - if any - prime scoring chances from in tight. Everything was from the outside. They are such a poorly constructed team.

Talbot was playing way out of his skin. It happens.

The Oil won one shoot-out victory vs. Calgary in their last eight games at Rexall. That speaks for itself.

Also, was it just me or was Monahan thrown out of the dot on just about every faceoff he went to take? Was so often it was weird.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

It's worked ever since Wideman signed with the Flames. I've said it before: Wideman is the PPQB this team has desperately needed ever since Phaneuf left. He's the only guy with a bomb from the point. But this season he's lost his offensive prowess. Used to be one of the best at getting his shots through. Now it's in the D's shinpads and a rush for the opposition up the ice every time. For whatever reason, he's lost his mojo and IMO that's why the Flames PP is as horrible as it is.

Feels Nogoodman

I have zero problem with Wideman on the PP. I agree that's why he's here, 5-6 dman and PP quarterback. That doesn't mean the only play has to get it to him and shoot. He's got a good shot but so do the other 4 guys on the ice. Gaudreau is one of the best in tight. Monahan has fast release from the slot. Gio can rip it. Brodie is Brodie. Hamilton has power and can control the puck down low. Bennett drives to the middle. There is high end talent on this team, we should not have a terrible power play and we should not have a one-look play to our depth defenseman like it's 2012 Tanguay to Iginla. Every damn time.

[Singularity]

Our PP is still in pre-season form guys

[djsFlames]

Hamilton sure has hands of molasses sometimes, though. Doesn't seem able to make the quickest plays on the PP and pucks bounce off his stick cause it's like he's not quite ready to recieve them. Has difficulty holding the line compared to other guys as well. Still, he's got a decent shot and doesn't seem afraid to use it.

[jlh2640]

Man I hate the Oilers. Cant believe we lost to those losers.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

You know it's a boring game when I fall asleep before the 3rd even starts. Awful, just awful after the 1st.

And I agree that I'm pretty much done with Gelinas. His responsibility is the forward group and the power play, no? Those are the two sore spots on this team at the moment. Despite Gaudreau's good play, nobody has really played up to expectations in the forward ranks. Don't even get me started on the power play. I don't think I've ever seen a less effective man advantage and I watched Sutter coached power plays.

Gelinas is the least experienced of the coaches, and it's really starting to show. If there isn't some improvement in his areas of control by season's end, you have to let him go.

[SHOGUN]

The lack.of one timers on the PP is disturbing.

[heep223]

Originally Posted by SHOGUN

The lack.of one timers on the PP is disturbing.

Ya why don't they set up an umbrella with Gio on one side and Wideman on the other, and just blast away. The current system is clearly not working try something new.

[Matty81]

That's exactly the kind of game that makes the widely used advanced stats look like a clown show. Huge shot disparity but I think Calgary had way more quality chances and it looked like a relatively easy, if close win until backlund got his ass handed to him in the dot and a flukely shot floated in

[Huntingwhale]

Originally Posted by MattyC

I have zero problem with Wideman on the PP. I agree that's why he's here, 5-6 dman and PP quarterback. That doesn't mean the only play has to get it to him and shoot. He's got a good shot but so do the other 4 guys on the ice. Gaudreau is one of the best in tight. Monahan has fast release from the slot. Gio can rip it. Brodie is Brodie. Hamilton has power and can control the puck down low. Bennett drives to the middle. There is high end talent on this team, we should not have a terrible power play and we should not have a one-look play to our depth defenseman like it's 2012 Tanguay to Iginla. Every damn time.

Yup I agree. I'm also fine with Wideman on the PP, but again the problem of coaching rears it's ugly head. The Flames biggest issue, other then the goaltending and GAA at the start of the season, has been the coaches' inability to adjust mid-game. The atrocious PP is proof of that.

[flames_fan_down_under]

The Flames were the much better team in the first and let their foot off the gas. This has been pretty consistent with the flames this season, consistently inconsistent especially
In the second period.

Taylor Hall made from my count four egregious turnovers.

Bennett Frolik Backlund line was the best for the Flames.

[dammage79]

First time this year that the team let Hiller down in my estimation. Still got a loser point though to stay at least 2 points ahead of the Oilers. This road trip isn't off to the best start.

[burn_this_city]

Too much hanging back protecting the lead, reminded me of the Sutter and Playfair days of playing defense and losing.

[polak]

Thank you for another loss Hartley and co. It must be hard to be so useless at coaching. Like what do these guys do when they practice that "powerplay"?

[GranteedEV]

First time this year that the team let Hiller down in my estimation.

EDM@CGY in October?

[Psytic]

Surprised they couldn't get up for the Oilers. The work ethic and third period never say die attitude is totally gone this year. They seem to be content to wait around until someone else takes the game on thier stick which seems to always be Gaudreau or recently Bennett. We need more than one player a game to kick it into high gear.

[taxbuster]

Disappointing game. The PP clearly lost them the game - from the first PP it was clear they were going nowhere.

On the other hand, I liked most of the Flames' game - it was structured, thoughtful and well-executed. They broke out well, defended well, brought 4 guys back to the neutral zone on almost each Oil rush - not much to complain about 5-on-5 IMO. Maybe a tad too much sitting back and waiting, but with the exception of a seeing-eye shot by Fayne, it worked pretty well.

But the guys on the PP are hesitant, undecided and slow - and that just isn't going to work in the NHL where speed is the only weapon on the PP. Wideman is too often his namesake: he shoots wide almost all the time (but every once in a while he almost redeems himself with a shot that sneaks through). Monahan is clearly overthinking as much as Johnny is overhandling - and both lead to missed chances and turnovers.

Not sure it's the coaching as much as the lack of confidence in execution. Why they work better 5-on-5 is a mystery (though Sean and Johnny are both experiencing the same issues there right now too). And you do have to give the Grease at least a bit of credit for rushing the D on the PP constantly (not much - just a bit).

But with no PP working, the Flames can kiss the post-season goodbye.

[pylon]

What a frusrating game.

How many face offs was Monahan tossed out of? Seems like every one almost.

And Johnny was shooting almost every puck into the defenders skates.

Just a bad game.

[CroFlames]

Hate shootouts. Always have.

What a cheap way to end a hockey game.