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Old 01-04-2016, 05:43 PM   #21
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If not for Bernier, I think Babcock would be the frontrunner as the Leafs would likely be in or near a WC spot.

We'll see what can happen the rest of the year.
Thing is that Hiller, Ortio and Ramo were every bit as bad as Bernier in the first two months of the season and Hartley had no goaltender to turn to. The fact that we are even discussing this topic just goes to show how overhyped everything in the Toronto market is.
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Old 01-04-2016, 05:55 PM   #22
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I know you can't say "If..." because every team can say it, but the Leafs record with Bernier isn't exactly great. Their record with Reimer and Sparks is not too bad.

They had a brutal October.They were 1-6-2 over their first 9 games. Since then they are 14-8-5. They have a pretty good goal differential considering their postion in the standings of -4.

Off topic, but wow, just looked at the Pacific and every team has a negative goal differential except for LA. And every team except San Jose has a double-digit goal differential in the high teens to low twenties. What a stinky division.
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If not for Bernier, I think Babcock would be the frontrunner as the Leafs would likely be in or near a WC spot.

We'll see what can happen the rest of the year.
BAAAAA ha ha ha!!!

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I know you can't say "If..." because every team can say it, but the Leafs record with Bernier isn't exactly great. Their record with Reimer and Sparks is not too bad.

They had a brutal October.They were 1-6-2 over their first 9 games. Since then they are 14-8-5. They have a pretty good goal differential considering their postion in the standings of -4.

Off topic, but wow, just looked at the Pacific and every team has a negative goal differential except for LA. And every team except San Jose has a double-digit goal differential in the high teens to low twenties. What a stinky division.
I agree - if the Leafs won more, they'd be better. Great analysis!
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BAAAAA ha ha ha!!!

"Our coach would get more respect if our team was in the playoffs, instead of garbage at the bottom of the league like they were before he came."
One point behind Calgary with a game in hand
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I agree - if the Leafs won more, they'd be better. Great analysis!
Where did I say that? You can't read.
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Where did I say that? You can't read.
Your first paragraph infers that if the Leafs had better goaltending, said Leafs would be a better hockey team.
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One point behind Calgary with a game in hand
Yes, but the difference is that Flames fans are extremely humble and remorseful about that fact.
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Yes, but the difference is that Flames fans are extremely humble and remorseful about that fact.
Haha this is that green text thing, right?
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Haha this is that green text thing, right?
Who's bragging about our standings?
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Who's bragging about our standings?
Inferring that one team is garbage while your team is only 1 point up on them while playing one more game does seem strange though. Doesn't seem humble. So that poster thinks the Flames are garbage too?

What Leaf fans are bragging about our standings? All the fans I know are aware the Leafs are not a great team. But most are happy with Babcock and what he has gotten out of them. I don't care if Babcock wins the Adams. Just don't think they play like garbage this year.
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The Leafs would be better if they were in the Pacific division. Oh wait.
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The Leafs are bad. Really bad. Oilers of the East! They may never be good again
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I know you can't say "If..." because every team can say it, but the Leafs record with Bernier isn't exactly great. Their record with Reimer and Sparks is not too bad.

They had a brutal October.They were 1-6-2 over their first 9 games. Since then they are 14-8-5. They have a pretty good goal differential considering their postion in the standings of -4.

Off topic, but wow, just looked at the Pacific and every team has a negative goal differential except for LA. And every team except San Jose has a double-digit goal differential in the high teens to low twenties. What a stinky division.
The Flames had their worst start in franchise history and were the worst team in October, no?
If not, it felt like it.

Since then they are one of the better teams and just getting hot. Does that suggest Hartley should win again?

Sure a few will say we won in spite of Hartley, but Babcock and his team have not been better than Hartley and the Flames.
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The Flames had their worst start in franchise history and were the worst team in October, no?
If not, it felt like it.


Since then they are one of the better teams and just getting hot. Does that suggest Hartley should win again?

Sure a few will say we won in spite of Hartley, but Babcock and his team have not been better than Hartley and the Flames.
Nope. Steve Smith as captain, Fuhr & Brathwaite between the pipes.

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GPI GS Min GAA W L OT SO SA GA Sv% G A PIM
Jonathan Bernier 18 17 1009 3.09 5 10 3 1 500 52 .896 0 0 0 34
James Reimer 17 15 977 1.97 7 4 4 0 502 32 .936 0 0 0 31
Garret Sparks 5 5 256 2.58 3 1 0 1 129 11 .915 0 0 0

That's not just a subtle difference. The actual facts and statistics say there was nothing wrong with my comment.

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Yes, but the difference is that Flames fans are extremely humble and remorseful about that fact.
What? LOL. This thread proves the opposite actually. There's 1 point difference and the Leafs are in another universe from the mighty Flames.
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Um. For why?
Maybe for being brave or stupid enough to coach the Maple Laffs.

Let me guess that Globe and Mail reporter is from Toronto. Unbelievable!!
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Maybe for being brave or stupid enough to coach the Maple Laffs.

Let me guess that Globe and Mail reporter is from Toronto. Unbelievable!!
That's always the assumption from people out-west.

It's by James Mirtle from Kamloops BC who is not by any means known as a Leaf fan. He's known as a "Stats Geek" who basis all his theories on advanced stats. He's no Leafs fan.
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That's always the assumption from people out-west.

It's by James Mirtle from Kamloops BC who is not by any means known as a Leaf fan. He's known as a "Stats Geek" who basis all his theories on advanced stats. He's no Leafs fan.
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