I always thought his solo album, 12 Bar Blues, was underrated and largely ignored:
YES! That album was super solid and trippy as F, Divider, Cool Kiss and Barbarella were my favs from that CD.
I was reading a (either Spin or RS) article earlier of the 20 essential Scott Weiland tracks and got turned on to another solo song of his that I hadn't heard before from like 08 or 09 called "Missing Cleveland" and it is quite brilliant IMO.
Was so stoked then and glad now that I got a chance to meet the guy back in 2009. He was in rough shape then too but he did such an awesome job at the acoustic gig he did for us. Saw STP twice in my life and Velvet Revolver once so in total I got to listen to Scott Weiland sing life 4 times. Very grateful for that.
RIP..
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Don't mean to derail this thread, but every time I see Corigan speak/write, it seems like he's boosting his own ego. He refers to three singers from the grunge era, of which he was a part, as the voices of his generation. He then refers to himself as a "competitor" with Weiland.
Maybe I'm reading into this too much.
If he named himself as one of the 3 I'd agree with you, but he didn't. I thought what he wrote was pretty nice, lots of compliments.
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Really loved STP when they emerged into the scene. Was actually not even sure they were a new group, as I thought at first it was another Pearl Jam redux (I can't be the only one who thought Scott was channeling Eddie Vedder in "Plush"?).
"Trippin On a Hole in a Paper Heart" was an awesome song. He was a talented vocalist and songwriter.
Yeah, I thought it was a nice tribute. Not sure why music groups would consider one another competitors, but without trying to read anything into it, it was well said. I think Corgan is waxing nostalgic for the 90s, and like anybody, you feel the sense of loss when you lose somebody from a time that was good to you.
Man that's really sad to hear. Definitely one of my favourite voices from that era.
Core was one of the albums that really got me into the grunge scene, and hard rock in general.
RIP Scott. Thanks for all the memories!
This is the final step in our long goodbye to Scott. Even though I felt we had no other choice, maybe we never should have let him go. Or maybe these last few years of separation were his parting gift to us – the only way he could think to soften what he knew would one day crush us deep into our souls. Over the last few years, I could hear his sadness and confusion when he'd call me late into the night, often crying about his inability to separate himself from negative people and bad choices. I won't say he can rest now, or that he's in a better place. He belongs with his children barbecuing in the backyard and waiting for a Notre Dame game to come on. We are angry and sad about this loss, but we are most devastated that he chose to give up.
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It's hard to imagine that something as simple as hanging out with his boys and watching a football game was something that couldn't be a regular part of his life. She kind of insinuates that he took his own life so was this an overdose?
ugh, I guarantee that women is one of the people that chase him into his grave, now she's banging on his coffin for the whole world to see. I couldn't finish that article.
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It's hard to imagine that something as simple as hanging out with his boys and watching a football game was something that couldn't be a regular part of his life. She kind of insinuates that he took his own life so was this an overdose?
What I gathered from the article was that his decisions led to his health problems, which ultimately killed him. I could totally be wrong though.
He's the absentee father and she's the problem? Come on.
Weiland's problem was two fold, he was an undependable junkie and he filled his life with people that saw him as a means to an end.
When he wanted to pull out of a VR tour for rehab, his bandmates sued him. He just couldn't get away from it, there were always vultures pecking at him.
ugh, I guarantee that women is one of the people that chase him into his grave, now she's banging on his coffin for the whole world to see. I couldn't finish that article.
Don't think that a fair comment. It's pretty well documented he turned her into a junkie years ago. She's the one that got clean, she's the one that raised the kids, and I tend to believe her when she writes that she's the one that had to deal with it financially when his child support payments didn't arrive.
I'd say she's more of a victim than a vulture.
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Don't think that a fair comment. It's pretty well documented he turned her into a junkie years ago. She's the one that got clean, she's the one that raised the kids, and I tend to believe her when she writes that she's the one that had to deal with it financially when his child support payments didn't arrive.
I'd say she's more of a victim than a vulture.
Weiland had to pay 90k a month to ex-wives, this lady with her two kids was probably getting around 40-50k a month from Weiland, to spend that kind of money he'd have to make double that and he's probably paying her that until both kids are 22.
I have no doubt that financial and emotional exhaustion is what prompted Weiland's suicide. Of course I'm not privy to all the facts, but it's hard not to imagine her playing a large role in the emotional state that drove Weiland to suicide. Now she's grandstanding about his death in front of the whole world and there's no one to argue with her.
e: with one hand she's painting herself as a perpetual victim, with the other she's trying to figure out the best way to carve up Weiland's corpse.
The guy was a junkie who cared more about getting high than anything else. More than keeping any band together, more than his kids, he made horrible decisions that led to become addicted and therefore left carnage in his wake.
I can't imagine how frustrated the DeLeo brothers were with him over the years, same with Slash & McKagan. Still a shame, loved the guys melodies and voice.
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Yeah, with 90k in child support payments due each month that were calculated during the peak of his earning years, there was no way he was ever going get clean and be a good father. He seemed well intentioned at times, but ultimately very few people in this world could come back from that.
Yes, he made bad choices in his life, but every time he tried to get better there was that dark cloud of "You need to tour all the time, no matter how small the earnings from shows become to attempt to pay your $90k a month that we've determined it takes to raise children".
From any interview or book I've read by him or people that know him, that $90k a year is a product of his bad decisions in the 90's and unfortunately also the dagger in his heart that gave him no hope. I remember reading about how his body was just destroyed by everyone that pushed him to keep going on everything to keep their own money and success going, despite knowing that he needed to step away and get help.
Everyone around him just kept going "You owe commitment to the band!! You owe huge financial commitment to this family!! You owe your time to and money top everyone". Obviously it's the life he set up, but it's still sad how most people can attempt a recovery from drug addiction, and he just never had the chance to say I'm stopping everything until I get clean" which is what anyone who's been through drug addiction knows HAS to happen. They kept the Weiland train going with predictable results.
The constant touring for small amounts of money in a continually failing attempt top pay off child support that was based off his 90's hit front man earnings has been described by most as a room with walls closing in that would inevitably kill him.
