Mass Shooting at Montreal College

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

I know that it is impossible to keep firearms out of the hands of crazies, but it is a heck of a lot harder to take out large numbers of people when you are using a single shot weapon instead of something that can fire dozens of rounds a second.

Yes, but like you said, it is impossible to keep firearms away from scum like these gunmen.

That being said, assualt rifles have no business being amongst the civilian population. I don't have a problem with handguns, shotguns or rifles though.

[RougeUnderoos]

Ahh yes, it's already started.

QR77 just had some moron on saying that this is the fault of gun control. "If some crazy knows that a small part of the population are carrying a concealed weapon, they'll think twice".

Guns for everyone.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Ahh yes, it's already started.

QR77 just had some moron on saying that this is the fault of gun control. "If some crazy knows that a small part of the population are carrying a concealed weapon, they'll think twice".

Guns for everyone.

Oh god. Because, in the US, where concealed carry permits are legal, school shootings or employees going postal never happen. Nosiree.

It sickens me that people would try to turn this tragedy into a gun control debate already.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Oh god. Because, in the US, where concealed carry permits are legal, school shootings or employees going postal never happen. Nosiree.

It sickens me that people would try to turn this tragedy into a gun control debate already.

Tragedy no doubt. A horrible horrible turn of events, and my heart goes out to all victims involved.

But it is natural to turn to a gun control debate in the aftermath of something like this - from my point of view as an attempt to prevent it occuring again.

See Scotland as an example of where universal gun control has proven very effective - and all it took was 12 dead children. Thank God it doesn't look like this terrible incident is going to have a similar death toll.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Tragedy no doubt. A horrible horrible turn of events, and my heart goes out to all victims involved.

But it is natural to turn to a gun control debate in the aftermath of something like this - from my point of view as an attempt to prevent it occuring again.

See Scotland as an example of where universal gun control has proven very effective - and all it took was 12 dead children. Thank God it doesn't look like this terrible incident is going to have a similar death toll.

nm. gun debate debating is a lose lose situation.

[flames_1987]

Turns out to be only one gunmen, up to 4 we're have reported to be in the school. Only one girl is dead right now, my thoughts and prayers go out to the injured victims and there familys. This could've been much worse..thank god

[troutman]

CNN says shooter is only death, 20 injured:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americ...ing/index.html

[flames_1987]

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ts-dawson.html

[political renagade]

Expressing sympothy is something that takes alot of strength and to say your sympothy goes out to those who are socail outcasts is one thing. To actually go out of your way any express it to those indaviduals is another . If those invoved in the shootings were given just a little bit, the events that took place may not have been commited in the first place.

[flames_1987]

Originally Posted by political renagade

Expressing sympothy is something that takes alot of strength and to say your sympothy goes out to those who are socail outcasts is one thing. To actually go out of your way any express it to those indaviduals is another . If those invoved in the shootings were given just a little bit, the events that took place may not have been commited in the first place.

How can you go on about this without even knowing the story behind these people? For all we know it could've just been someone with a messed up mind doing something totally messed up.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by political renagade

If those invoved in the shootings were given just a little bit, the events that took place may not have been commited in the first place.

Given what?

[moon]

Originally Posted by political renagade

Expressing sympothy is something that takes alot of strength and to say your sympothy goes out to those who are socail outcasts is one thing. To actually go out of your way any express it to those indaviduals is another . If those invoved in the shootings were given just a little bit, the events that took place may not have been commited in the first place.

This "social outcast" deserves no sympathy and anyone who was mean to this jackass was right to do so. He proved that he did not deserve anyone's sympathy, respect or kindness when he began shooting at others.

I can't imagine that the "meanness" that he suffered justifies the attempted murder and injuring of ~20 people.

[political renagade]

Originally Posted by moon

This "social outcast" deserves no sympathy and anyone who was mean to this jackass was right to do so. He proved that he did not deserve anyone's sympathy, respect or kindness when he began shooting at others.

I can't imagine that the "meanness" that he suffered justifies the attempted murder and injuring of ~20 people.

You are confusing Cause and effect. You say that he deserved the ridicual that he may have recieved. But he only deserved it (acording to you) because he commited these shootings. He didn't prove that he doesn't deserve "sympothy, respect or kindness". The events proved that he never recieved "sympothy, respect or kindness".

Acts like these are not justifiable but however they are preventable.

[political renagade]

I am not saying that they were socail outcasts, but if they were i feel this sort of event could be avoided. people are not born with an urge to kill, something must have happened to these teens in order to drive them to such drastic messures. As a society we need to use preventative messures in order to curb violent and destructive behavour. And it starts with Sympothy and respect for other people and their circumstances in life.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by political renagade

I am not saying that they were socail outcasts, but if they were i feel this sort of event could be avoided. people are not born with an urge to kill, something must have happened to these teens in order to drive them to such drastic messures. As a society we need to use preventative messures in order to curb violent and destructive behavour. And it starts with Sympothy and respect for other people and their circumstances in life.

At least this one is out of the Gene Pool.

[political renagade]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

At least this one is out of the Gene Pool.

Nature vs. nurture,
i don't think he would have passed his nbiological will to kill to any kids he may have had.

[pope04]

Originally Posted by political renagade

it starts with Sympothy and respect for other people and their circumstances in life.

The only "sympothy" I have is for the victims and their families........perhaps even a little for the gunman's family.

How can you be a political renegade if you can't even spell it?

[political renagade]

Originally Posted by pope04

The only "sympothy" I have is for the victims and their families........perhaps even a little for the gunman's family.

How can you be a polical renegade if you can't even spell it?

Good point

[Reggie Dunlop]

Guy was angry about his lot in life? Then he should have just killed himself instead of trying to take out as many WELL ADUSTED kids as he could.

[political renagade]

Think about it this way, if all it would have taken was a a little sympothy and kindness towards this guy, wouldn't it be worth it to save the lives of the people he shot. Even though you may not think he deserves it?