In this case, it is also grossly hypocritical given Evman is the single most sanctimonious poster in Calgarypuck history. And that is saying something.
Except he's actually right this time. I used to be in favourof a sewage treatment plant out here, but the scientific literature in favour of it just isn't there from any credible sources.
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I agree, BCers are sanctimonious when it comes to the environment, but logging and forestry are heavy industries that are very much NOT environmental friendly, except for the fact that trees are renewable.
The same industry.
Not to mention, BC hasn't done a great job of husbanding its salmon fisheries.
Environmentalism is a pseudo-political identity in BC. Vancouverites are the worst. You live in a 3000 sq ft house in North Vancouver with 3 family cars, but because you do the Grouse Grind once a week, you are an active, outdoorsy person who thinks Albertan's are responsible de facto for climate change.
Environmentalism is a pseudo-political identity in BC. Vancouverites are the worst. You live in a 3000 sq ft house in North Vancouver with 3 family cars, but because you do the Grouse Grind once a week, you are an active, outdoorsy person who thinks Albertan's are responsible de facto for climate change.
That made me curious - 3000 square foot homes around Vancouver cost $4 M to $12 M. Wow.
Except he's actually right this time. I used to be in favourof a sewage treatment plant out here, but the scientific literature in favour of it just isn't there from any credible sources.
And that's fair. Most of us in this thread are living proof that even aholes are right from time to time.
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Politics aside, that photo is one of the most heart wrenching things I've ever seen.
I've found that becoming a parent has magnified certain emotions in my life. Seeing something so tragic happen to someone so small is difficult.
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I agree on your conclusion, but I'm also guessing Mulcair may have a fair amount to say about refugees and I believe his was taped last, so he went into it more informed on public sentiment/outrage. It doesn't hurt for Trudeau to talk it up more, is all I'm saying.
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True.
At any rate, Harper has declined to meet with the other party leaders about the issue. He said that they already pledged to bring more refugees over in 2016. I guess he doesn't have the same urgency to get something done sooner.
Mulcair said he would meet with Harper if Harper was willing, but made no mention of bringing any other leaders into it.
Except he's actually right this time. I used to be in favourof a sewage treatment plant out here, but the scientific literature in favour of it just isn't there from any credible sources.
Not specific to you, just in general.
And, last derail from me here (on this topic anyway).
I'll ask the same question - do you support dumping raw sewage into the ocean.
If you say yes, I have no problem - though I strongly disagree.
If you say no... but it's OK for 'me' to do it, then I take issue.
Lack of scientific evidence to the contrary does not make it ok, unless you want to sound like big tobacco from back in the day. We also once filled the walls/floors of our homes with carcinogens, when there was no credible evidence to the contrary. I'm sure I can throw garbage out the window of my vehicle (nature does a great job of breaking it down, you know) without doing irreparable harm to the environment. It's simply becomes a question of moral responsibility.
If you think dumping raw sewage into the ocean is OK, I believe you are wrong.
If you think dumping raw sewage is wrong, but it's OK for me - then I don't know what to say to you.
Not specific to you, just in general.
And, last derail from me here (on this topic anyway).
I'll ask the same question - do you support dumping raw sewage into the ocean.
If you say yes, I have no problem - though I strongly disagree.
If you say no... but it's OK for 'me' to do it, then I take issue.
Lack of scientific evidence to the contrary does not make it ok, unless you want to sound like big tobacco from back in the day. We also once filled the walls/floors of our homes with carcinogens, when there was no credible evidence to the contrary. I'm sure I can throw garbage out the window of my vehicle (nature does a great job of breaking it down, you know) without doing irreparable harm to the environment. It's simply becomes a question of moral responsibility.
If you think dumping raw sewage into the ocean is OK, I believe you are wrong.
If you think dumping raw sewage is wrong, but it's OK for me - then I don't know what to say to you.
This is a really bizarre way looking at things. This isn't even comparable to big tobacco because there have actually been scientific studies by unbiased, independent scientists who have found that the current method is not harmful to the environment. Standing on some objective moral principle that somehow transcends evidence-based research makes zero sense to me.
Not specific to you, just in general.
And, last derail from me here (on this topic anyway).
I'll ask the same question - do you support dumping raw sewage into the ocean.
If you say yes, I have no problem - though I strongly disagree.
If you say no... but it's OK for 'me' to do it, then I take issue.
Lack of scientific evidence to the contrary does not make it ok, unless you want to sound like big tobacco from back in the day. We also once filled the walls/floors of our homes with carcinogens, when there was no credible evidence to the contrary. I'm sure I can throw garbage out the window of my vehicle (nature does a great job of breaking it down, you know) without doing irreparable harm to the environment. It's simply becomes a question of moral responsibility.
If you think dumping raw sewage into the ocean is OK, I believe you are wrong.
If you think dumping raw sewage is wrong, but it's OK for me - then I don't know what to say to you.
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This is a really bizarre way looking at things. This isn't even comparable to big tobacco because there have actually been scientific studies by unbiased, independent scientists who have found that the current method is not harmful to the environment. Standing on some objective moral principle that somehow transcends evidence-based research makes zero sense to me.
Elderick, in this instance, you would be occupying the 'big tobacco' moniker, eschewing recent and comprehensive scientific analysis in favour of outdated social tropes.
Provincial peeing matches are rubbish. If we lived on the coast, we would probably pump our waste into the ocean. If the vancouverites lived in Calgary/Northern AB, they would produce oil sands. And we would still have these same dumb debates.
^With all of the money these guys have to spend and all the time they spend crafting a message, why are their ads so terrible? Why not pay a tiny bit more and hire reasonable actors with decently written lines?
