Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum

View Poll Results: What are your thoughts on the Flames CalgaryNext presentation? (select multiple)
Get digging, I love it all! 259 37.27%
Too much tax money 125 17.99%
Too much ticket tax 54 7.77%
Need more parking 130 18.71%
I need more details, can't say at this time 200 28.78%
The city owns it? Great deal for Calgary 110 15.83%
Need to clean up this area anyway, its embarassing 179 25.76%
Needs a retractable roof 89 12.81%
Great idea but don't think it will fly with stake holders 69 9.93%
Why did it take 2 years to come up with this? 161 23.17%
Curious to see the city's response 194 27.91%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 695. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-18-2015, 02:33 PM   #1221
btimbit
Franchise Player
 
btimbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
Exp:
Default

Sportsnet feed

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/w...pment-project/
btimbit is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:34 PM   #1222
Komskies
Franchise Player
 
Komskies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cole436 View Post
The only thing the roof will rob us of will be outdoor NHL games.
Not true, Vancouver had an "outdoor" game at BC Place in 2014.
Komskies is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:34 PM   #1223
You Need a Thneed
Voted for Kodos
 
You Need a Thneed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta View Post
A new stadium needs a roof. That's how we get more butts in the seats for events, especially in weather that is as unpredictable as Calgary's.

I know lots of people who don't attend Stamps games because it can be just too darn cold, windy, rainy or snowy.
A new stadium has to be able to do more than just be a stadium, to make any financial sense, which pretty much forces the facility to have a roof.

There are many options to make the fan experience a good one, whether the roof is retractable, or has large glass panels, etc. I'm assuming that noone is going to build giant bunkers like they did in the past.
__________________
My LinkedIn Profile.
You Need a Thneed is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:34 PM   #1224
craigwd
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful View Post
Paris, home of world class hockey arenas.
Much more than a hockey arena.
I liked hearing about the green spaces, pedestrian friendly areas, walkways and living/working areas.

They are building a self sufficient community with a sports complex as its anchor and I love it.

KK started off by talking about the new Library and the Juno Awards, perfect metaphor. All is good for Calgary.
craigwd is online now  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:35 PM   #1225
undercoverbrother
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta View Post
A new stadium needs a roof. That's how we get more butts in the seats for events, especially in weather that is as unpredictable as Calgary's.

I know lots of people who don't attend Stamps games because it can be just too darn cold, windy, rainy or snowy.

Part of me agrees, but the part that likes watching sports outside on lovely days/nights disagrees.


A retractable roof would have been lovely.
undercoverbrother is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:36 PM   #1226
dino7c
Franchise Player
 
dino7c's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis View Post
Many American cities with 1 million people get skipped as well. Bands play San Francisco and not San Jose (or Sacramento or Oakland) often. Bands choose to have a certain amount of shows per tour. They aren't suddenly adding more shows because a city built a new arena.

As it is bands often go Vancouver, Edmonton/Calgary and then Winnipeg for a Western Canadian swing. It's not suddenly becoming Vancouver and Edmonton and Calgary and Winnipeg. The roof is not a cure all to getting more concerts here. Will it mean a few more shows skip Edmonton for Calgary? Yes, but shows will still skip Calgary for Edmonton.

That's my point, if people think that's going to stop with a new arena, they are in for some heartbreak. Big acts will still skip Calgary.
Flames can't survive long term without a new building

Saddledome can't survive as it is without the Flames

Sure right now most concerts still come here but without the Flames how does the dome operate?
dino7c is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:36 PM   #1227
Scary Eloranta
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Scary Eloranta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Exp:
Default

Anyone know where we can watch this live? Calgary Sun and CBC streams not working at all.
Scary Eloranta is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:36 PM   #1228
Cappy
#1 Goaltender
 
Cappy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tacopuck View Post
Its not specifically about a hockey arena, football stadium or field house, its about the bigger picture of Calgary. You need ALL of these things. The 1% art thing is another example of this, so is the new public library, National music center, winsport, ect...

Imagine an in demand profession that has several equally attractive offers on the table to bring their talents to organizations in various "world class" cities (ie New York, Paris, London, ect..) If they havent heard of Calgary or what it offers they are most likely going to skip out on Calgary and go with one of the more established cities. This is about putting Calgary on the top of lists for people to come here.
This argument has been used at length by every city who wants to be bigger, and it never works. How do we compete with New York, Paris, London? are you kidding? we can't. We dont have the people, tax revenue, history, etc. When i think of these places i dont think about the arenas, I think about the culture, the working conditions, the living conditions etc. Bike lanes, public parks, weather, night life. None of this is added to the city by simply building a new arena or any building for that matter.

What makes a city world class? Do world class cities actually attract the most talented people?

What makes regional cities great? why is Portland or Austin, or San Fran so popular?
Cappy is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:36 PM   #1229
Scornfire
First Line Centre
 
Scornfire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Kelowna
Exp:
Default

wtf cameraguy?!?!
Scornfire is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:37 PM   #1230
MrMastodonFarm
Lifetime Suspension
 
MrMastodonFarm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

God dammit Sportsnet.
MrMastodonFarm is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:37 PM   #1231
Benched
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Benched's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: ...the bench
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta View Post
Anyone know where we can watch this live? Calgary Sun and CBC streams not working at all.
http://video.flames.nhl.com/videocen...id=DL|CGY|home
Benched is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:37 PM   #1232
hockey.modern
First Line Centre
 
hockey.modern's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: CGY
Exp:
Default

Fail
__________________
Sam "Beard" Bennett
hockey.modern is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:38 PM   #1233
The Hendog
Powerplay Quarterback
 
The Hendog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Global is working well for me

http://globalnews.ca/news/2171041/ca...ected-tuesday/
The Hendog is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:38 PM   #1234
Biyaaaah
Draft Pick
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit View Post
I think he said 5 years, if everything went perfectly

LOL. He's also been saying an arena announcement is close for the past 8 years.

Political battle + enviro remediation alone will likely be a minimum of 4 years.
Biyaaaah is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:38 PM   #1235
IamNotKenKing
#1 Goaltender
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappy View Post
It would be proposed. Judging by the council's comments in the past, it will not go over well. The team wants to release the information so the citizens get pumped and force the city's hand.
I'm not sure I agree with this, as the City ask is precisely the money the City has allocated to the Fieldhouse.
IamNotKenKing is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:39 PM   #1236
Loyal and True
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hendog View Post
If the options are roof or no roof - always take roof

Just a quick Google search shows that even the mighty NFL only currently has 4 stadiums with retractable roofs and apparently 66% of the games in those stadiums are with the roof closed (because it is to hot but same would go for to cold here)

Economically it doesn't make sense to have a retractable roof and therefore you go back to my original point

If the options are roof or no roof - always take roof
Always take no roof. In fact, CFL and any other field sport are not big enough to justify a new indoor facility. Build a cheaper open air facility, renovate McMahon OR.... if you are going to spend 100s of millions on a state of the art football stadium, then a retractable roof is absolutely necessary in this city.

Lots of NFL stadiums are open air, even in December they rock in NY, Chi, Buff and Seattle in rain. I would take Ralph Wilson stadium over closed SkyDome anytime.
Loyal and True is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:40 PM   #1237
Ben Dover
Crash and Bang Winger
 
Ben Dover's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Exp:
Default

http://calgarynext.com/ is now up and running
Ben Dover is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:40 PM   #1238
RM14
First Line Centre
 
RM14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

No comments if large scale concerts could be held in the stadium/fieldhouse.
RM14 is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:40 PM   #1239
Weitz
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Exp:
Default

Comparing the flames new arena to a public library?
Weitz is offline  
Old 08-18-2015, 02:41 PM   #1240
Northendzone
Franchise Player
 
Northendzone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Exp:
Default

i wonder if anyone in the flames organizations is hearing a voice that is saying things like Ease his pain, go the distance, build it and they will come

anywyas, i guess everything (location, funding, cost etc) is pretty much as expected.

personally i am not really in favour of the government getting involved in funding these type of projects but i do understand that there is some overall value in having these things here. will be interesting to see how long it takes to get digging.

how much will the streets need to be widened to accomodate all of teh tourists that will come to see this structure?
__________________
If I do not come back avenge my death
Northendzone is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:31 PM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy