Gas Stations Gas and Dash Incident

[Johnny199r]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I guess it would depend on what the crown wants to seek (and what they think they can successfully prosecute). Witnesses describe it as them thinking about what to do, then choosing to run her down.

That sounds like intent to me.

Going out of their way to intentionally run her down would get it to 2nd. Her being in the way of their escape, running into their path would be different.

[darklord700]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

I guess it would depend on what the crown wants to seek (and what they think they can successfully prosecute). Witnesses describe it as them thinking about what to do, then choosing to run her down.

That sounds like intent to me.

Those Home Depot Witnesses's testimonies will be key. Obviously, they didn't just simply run over that woman but they had time to think.

If those witnesses can testify that the woman yelled at them to pay or something like that, basically, interacted with the driver, that could strengthen the likelihood of a 2nd degree charge as well. 1st degree is probably not likely at all based on what we know so far.

One potential problem is that it's a big truck and the driver might claim that he didn't see that woman to try to get of of a 2nd murder charge.

[Ducay]

Sad reminder as to why police always always always say to never pursue or approach criminals.

Lady was doing what she saw as right, which is a shame this happened to her. OHS needs to continually reinforce that it is not employee's job to chase or stop thieves.

Catch and roast these buggers.

[CaptainCrunch]

scumbags, it takes a complete lack of character to stare at a person and run them down with your truck over some gas.

I agree with the above, vehicles have brakes on them, they chose to run her over, that's pretty much intent in my book, this wasn't an accident, it was a deliberate act.

Try em as adults, charge them with second degree murder.

[CaptainCrunch]

I feel bad for her family though. They came over here to get away from the violence in their home land and get better opportunities and these two rodents stole it from them.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I feel bad for her family though. They came over here to get away from the violence in their home land and get better opportunities and these two rodents stole it from them.

This is offensive to rodents.

[jeffporfirio]

Such a sad turn of events, especially given her background.

Leave your country, travel halfway around the world to provide a better future for your son, adapt yourself to a new culture, language, climate, etc., and get run down by homegrown scumbags.

I agree, try them as adults, throw 2nd degree at them.

[darklord700]

Can't imagine how hard this is for the husband; to look after their children alone and with funeral costs to worry about. There should be a donation account setup to help this family.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Witnesses describe it as them thinking about what to do, then choosing to run her down.

That sounds like intent to me.

That statement would most likely never see the light of day in a courtroom. The witness can testify as to what they saw, they can't testify as to what the driver was thinking, what the driver saw, nor what his intent was.

It would require some creative interpretation, but the Crown could charge first degree murder if they can show that just prior and during the incident, the two were guilty of an offense under S.423 of the CCoC.

If they can do that, the charge of first degree murder can apply.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

That statement would most likely never see the light of day in a courtroom. The witness can testify as to what they saw, they can't testify as to what the driver was thinking, what the driver saw, nor what his intent was.

It would require some creative interpretation, but the Crown could charge first degree murder if they can show that just prior and during the incident, the two were guilty of an offense under S.423 of the CCoC.

If they can do that, the charge of first degree murder can apply.

I looked it up, and S.423 is related to url=http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-423.html]intimidation[/url. I'm curious as to how that would upgrade the charge to murder 1.

Not a lawyer (obviously), but presuming there are no laws that automatically upgrade the charge because this homicide was committed in the act of committing another crime, I can't see murder 1 or 2 sticking. The driver will probably end up with manslaughter, imo. The passenger, I'm guessing, would be looking at charges related to being an accessory to the crime.

[Resolute 14]

Also, and notwithstanding the intention of the Youth Criminal Justice Act, the fact that the passenger is a minor should have no bearing on the right to publish his photo and information in a crime like this. Public safety should always come first.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Also, and notwithstanding the intention of the Youth Criminal Justice Act, the fact that the passenger is a minor should have no bearing on the right to publish his photo and information in a crime like this. Public safety should always come first.

No, no, no.

We have to protect the little misguided angel. Because obviously he will somehow become the true victim in all of this.

[Resolute 14]

Believe it or not, your idiotic hyperbole doesn't advance the discussion.

[Regulator75]

I feel sick to my stomach...

[RedMileDJ]

nm

[RedMileDJ]

nm

[Resolute 14]

Legally, I don't think so. At least, not the passenger/kid filling up.

[Property Manager DB]

As annoying as it is to pre-pay (like the legislation in BC), I believe Alberta should implement the same.
This entire situation would have been avoided.

[4X4]

It wouldn't bother me one bit if pay before pump was mandatory... It would just be really nice if it didn't take a minute and a half to do the transaction. That's the annoying part. Almost as annoying as the pump constantly being out of paper, forcing you to go inside. When that happens, I do not spend any money in the store, out of spite. Esso at Crowchild and 5th, I'm looking at you.

Anyway, it's pretty common for people to want their gas on a separate receipt, anyway, so in my world, I'd still be inclined to pay for gas at the pump, then go inside for tea or a snack.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by RedMileDJ

Never mind. Due to the power of Google I was able to find images from the video.

Can they be posted?

Certainly not here, if that in fact was the youth. You'd be putting the site in a very bad spot, legally.