Uniformed Soldier Shot at War Memorial in Ottawa-R.I.P. Cpl. Cirillo

[Bagor]

Michael Zehaf-Bibeau, the man being identified as the gunman killed in Ottawa on Wednesday, appears to have lived at various times — and committed various criminal offences — in Montreal, Vancouver and Aylmer, Que.
A man with the same name and age listed an Aylmer address when he was charged in that city with breaching release conditions from a previous charge, according to court records. The charge was later withdrawn.
A Zehaf-Bibeau resided in Montreal’s Villeray-Saint Michel-Park Extension borough between 2004 and 2006. His most recent court record indicates Zehaf-Bibeau fell off the map for three years, as far as the Montreal courthouse was concerned, because he failed to show up in court on a simple marijuana charge that had been filed against him on March 14, 2006.
He turned up in court more than three years later, on Dec. 12, 2009, to plead guilty to the charge. As part of his sentence he was granted an absolute discharge. (At that time, he was charged and convicted under the name Michael Bibeau-Zehaf, reversing his surname.)
His most serious conviction came on Dec. 7, 2004, when Zehaf-Bibeau pleaded guilty to possession of phencyclidine, also known as PCP, and was sentenced to a 60-day prison term. On the same day, he also pleaded guilty to marijuana possession and was sentenced to one day in prison. He has also been convicted for failing to comply with conditions of a release.....

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/nation...ver-and-aylmer


Sounds like someone with substance abuse issues and probable other ones.
Alymer is across the river from Ottawa.

[Azure]

John Ivison ‏@IvisonJ 47s48 seconds ago
Lockdown for various buildings, including our own, back on. People in those buildings asked to remain there. "The situations is evolving."

[united]

Originally Posted by Azure

John Ivison ‏@IvisonJ 12m12 minutes ago
Conservative MPs back under lockdown. Threat environment allegedly not safe.

CBC just reported the same. "Situation evolving"

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Azure

John Ivison ‏@IvisonJ 12m12 minutes ago
Conservative MPs back under lockdown. Threat environment allegedly not safe.

Cbc just reported the same.

Everyone is to remain in there location . No one is to leave under any circumstance.

[cal_guy]

The gunman also went by Michael Joseph Hall according to the news.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by driveway

One of the best ways to make sure that tragedies involving firearms don't happen again is to restrict access to firearms by strengthening gun laws. While you're right that gun laws in America have absolutely no bearing on what happened in Ottawa, it's totally reasonable to ask the question "in light of these events, should weapons restrictions in Canada be increased."

I mean, here was an individual who was under police scrutiny, had a criminal record, and had their passport revoked, yet they were able to acquire a weapon from somewhere. It's totally, totally appropriate to ask if this was a failure of our weapons laws and if they should be strengthened.

Gun laws only affect those that go through the legal process of obtaining the firearms. If this guy was a criminal or had involvement in criminal activity, he would obtain firearms from criminal sources.

I wish people would get this. I think our gun laws are entirely reasonable and only wish the educational process involving owning and using firearms would be promoted a lot more, but lets not get all 1984 by self imposing a totalitarian state because of one incident. The US has clearly shown that it won't change a damn thing in the end.

Won't edit, but no need for anyone to respond, thanks. Leave it for another time.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Not by the police yet.

Hard to believe it was a double barrel going by the shots exchanged on the video.

[GoinAllTheWay]

C'mon Azure, let's leave that one alone for a bit. I do hear ya, bet let's leave it for another time.

[MissTeeks]

660News Calgary‏@660News2m2 minutes ago

#UPDATE: Prime Minister Harper is now expected to address Canadians at 5:45 p.m.

[octothorp]

edit: nm, leave for another time.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Azure

Gun laws only affect those that go through the legal process of obtaining the firearms. If this guy was a criminal or had involvement in criminal activity, he would obtain firearms from criminal sources.

I wish people would get this. I think our gun laws are entirely reasonable and only wish the educational process involving owning and using firearms would be promoted a lot more, but lets not get all 1984 by self imposing a totalitarian state because of one incident. The US has clearly shown that it won't change a damn thing in the end.

As CaptainCrunch said, once we know where the gun came from, then it's time to have the conversation. I do feel that Canadian gun laws are currently sufficient, but if this guy had recently purchased that weapon (which we don't know right now), then we need to have a conversation.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by MissTeeks

660News Calgary‏@660News2m2 minutes ago

#UPDATE: Prime Minister Harper is now expected to address Canadians at 5:45 p.m.

What time zone?

[gladaki]

Respect to fallen soldier.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by driveway

As CaptainCrunch said, once we know where the gun came from, then it's time to have the conversation. I do feel that Canadian gun laws are currently sufficient, but if this guy had recently purchased that weapon (which we don't know right now), then we need to have a conversation.

Fair enough.

Agreed on all points.

[tvp2003]

Originally Posted by Azure

John Ivison ‏@IvisonJ 47s48 seconds ago
Lockdown for various buildings, including our own, back on. People in those buildings asked to remain there. "The situations is evolving."

Even though this morning's shooter is dead, can't assume everyone is safe now. Especially with the previous incident -- is there any proof of a link between the two? Isolated cases?

[Acey]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

what time zone?

5:45 Mountain, 7:45 Eastern

[Azure]

Originally Posted by tvp2003

Even though this morning's shooter is dead, can't assume everyone is safe now. Especially with the previous incident -- is there any proof of a link between the two? Isolated cases?

I don't think it has ever been confirmed that there were two shooters or that the incidents were connected. Clearly the police have felt all along that there might be something more going on.

[Azure]

RCMP National Div ‏@RCMP_Nat_Div 11m11 minutes ago
The #RCMP asks the public remain vigilant. The investigation into today’s shootings is on-going. Avoid the downtown core and stay indoors

[Azure]

Link to watch the PM speak.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otta...809530?cmp=rss

[Azure]