XBone Vs PS4 Vs PC - VIDEOGAME POLITICS THUNDERDOME - PS4:900p-XBone:720p-PC::smug:

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Says the guy who just went on a multiple paragraph rant in defence of the Xbox.

Internet warriors indeed

I also don't care what platform people play games on, but I don't spend time defending a system and calling critics of it "fanboys".

I have no issues with people criticizing MS, Sony or Nintendo. I do find it irritating when its done with hyperbolic statements like "Xbox has brought nothing to the industry".

When I start saying stuff like that feel free to call me a fanboy as well.

[FlameOn]

Xbox one retail unit conversion to devkit is on the roadmap, but is no longer a priority

"There's been such a great response to [the Xbox indies program] that the request from the community so far hasn't been the retail-to-dev kits,"

"I just want to listen and take the feedback and not just do something because I wanna go do it," Spencer said. In so many words, Spencer doesn't want his team to spend resources (time/money/etc.) delivering a service that developers aren't asking for. "I wanna do something because the consumer -- developers in this case -- get what they're asking for."

http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/14/x...ev-kit-retail/

[chemgear]

Monthly NPD numbers are out again, leaks will likely continue over the course of the evening (with more actual numbers I am sure).

Reporting period: July 6-August 2, 2014
Mario Kart 8 has crossed a million.

Sony PR: PlayStation 4 was #1 in sales for the seventh consecutive month and remains the cumulative leader for next generation game consoles. PlayStation 4 led the month for next generation software sales by a considerable margin, with The Last of Us Remastered taking the #1 spot.

Microsoft PR: “Xbox One continues to sell at a strong and steady pace following the release of the $399 console in June, when month-to-month sales more than doubled,” a Microsoft spokesperson told GamesBeat. “We continued to see this momentum in July.”

1. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
2. Minecraft (360, PS3)
3. FIFA 14 (360,PS4, Xbox One, PS3, Vita)
4. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
5. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
6. Call of Duty: Ghosts (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3, Wii U, PC)
7. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)
8. Sniper Elite III (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
9. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, 3DS, DS, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One, Vita, PC)


Anybody remember this "journalist" from Polygon talking silly trash about that number 1 selling game?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Monthly NPD numbers are out again, leaks will likely continue over the course of the evening (with more actual numbers I am sure).

Reporting period: July 6-August 2, 2014
Mario Kart 8 has crossed a million.

Sony PR: PlayStation 4 was #1 in sales for the seventh consecutive month and remains the cumulative leader for next generation game consoles. PlayStation 4 led the month for next generation software sales by a considerable margin, with The Last of Us Remastered taking the #1 spot.

Microsoft PR: “Xbox One continues to sell at a strong and steady pace following the release of the $399 console in June, when month-to-month sales more than doubled,” a Microsoft spokesperson told GamesBeat. “We continued to see this momentum in July.”

1. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
2. Minecraft (360, PS3)
3. FIFA 14 (360,PS4, Xbox One, PS3, Vita)
4. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
5. Mario Kart 8 (Wii U)
6. Call of Duty: Ghosts (Xbox One, 360, PS4, PS3, Wii U, PC)
7. Grand Theft Auto V (360, PS3)
8. Sniper Elite III (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
9. NBA 2K14 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, 3DS, DS, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One, Vita, PC)


Anybody remember this "journalist" from Polygon talking silly trash about that number 1 selling game?

lol polygon, how can anyone trust a review site that has admitted to taking money for positive reviews/news

[zedge]

Arthur Gies is a moron. Guy comes accross as such a d bag too.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Igottago

I have no issues with people criticizing MS, Sony or Nintendo. I do find it irritating when its done with hyperbolic statements like "Xbox has brought nothing to the industry".

When I start saying stuff like that feel free to call me a fanboy as well.

You kind of have to just accept that some people are going to get much more involved with brands over games. Wether it's consoles, automobiles, cell phones, etc this is just the way of the internet. I buy both systems because at the end of the day I want to be able to play the best games period but it's tough when there's a large contingent fixated on one brand that do their best to convey that the other brand is terrible and has nothing to offer. Wether it's Chemgear (the troll that pretends not to be a troll) with his blatant anti-Microsoft propaganda baiting posts where he bolds anything that's a negative for Microsoft while never highlighting when Sony missteps or dyno7c, Outofthecube, etc that are classic console fanboys this can be a frustrating place for guys that enjoy both consoles and want both to thrive because competition breeds innovation. That said guys like us end up the winners at the end of the day as we play all of the best games not just some of them.

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You kind of have to just accept that some people are going to get much more involved with brands over games. Wether it's consoles, automobiles, cell phones, etc this is just the way of the internet. I buy both systems because at the end of the day I want to be able to play the best games period but it's tough when there's a large contingent fixated on one brand that do their best to convey that the other brand is terrible and has nothing to offer. Wether it's Chemgear (the troll that pretends not to be a troll) with his blatant anti-Microsoft propaganda baiting posts where he bolds anything that's a negative for Microsoft while never highlighting when Sony missteps or dyno7c, Outofthecube, etc that are classic console fanboys this can be a frustrating place for guys that enjoy both consoles and want both to thrive because competition breeds innovation. That said guys like us end up the winners at the end of the day as we play all of the best games not just some of them.

Too funny. The number one Apple/Xbox fanboy comes out and attempts to lay the un-biased speech down. Nice work Estrada!

[Blaster86]

I have a thought on this whole Console bias thing. And I think everyone will agree that it is an unbiased and well thought out sentiment.

Wii U is Love. Wii U is Life.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Too funny. The number one Apple/Xbox fanboy comes out and attempts to lay the un-biased speech down. Nice work Estrada!

No, he's pretty much bang on with what he said. I don't see nearly as much vitriol towards Sony by any posters here, just the few that keep continuously trying to dig up "evidence" of how garbage the Xbox is. As an Xbox owner, I don't think I've come out and said a single thing trying to vilify Sony. Why should I? Its probably a great console. Just doesn't cater to all my preferences the way Xbox does.

Its hilarious actually. Estrada pretty much hit the bullseye with pointing out what Chemgear does. The dude is the biggest troll then he starts trying to cover it up with some nonsense about being interested in all opinions. Just take a look at 90% of his posts in the thread, its like he get's paid by Sony to smear the Xbox brand. I actually hope he does get paid, because if he doesn't its just weird. Honestly if you're going to be a fanboy just man up to it. Dancing around it is pointless.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Rhettzky

Too funny. The number one Apple/Xbox fanboy comes out and attempts to lay the un-biased speech down. Nice work Estrada!

Hey now, I'm a big fan of Apple products as well. I'm guilty of going casual with quite a bit of iPad gaming especially while traveling.

[Chill Cosby]

Originally Posted by Igottago

No, he's pretty much bang on with what he said. I don't see nearly as much vitriol towards Sony by any posters here, just the few that keep continuously trying to dig up "evidence" of how garbage the Xbox is. As an Xbox owner, I don't think I've come out and said a single thing trying to vilify Sony. Why should I? Its probably a great console. Just doesn't cater to all my preferences the way Xbox does.



Its hilarious actually. Estrada pretty much hit the bullseye with pointing out what Chemgear does. The dude is the biggest troll then he starts trying to cover it up with some nonsense about being interested in all opinions. Just take a look at 90% of his posts in the thread, its like he get's paid by Sony to smear the Xbox brand. I actually hope he does get paid, because if he doesn't its just weird. Honestly if you're going to be a fanboy just man up to it. Dancing around it is pointless.

Exactly true, so I humbly await your "manning up" to it.

Nobody except a fanboy would get so blatantly and personally offended over somebody saying something bad about a console. Quit the hypocrisy of calling other people fanboys and trolls and get into the fun of the thread!

It's video games. Quit trashing other posters and get back to trashing the systems they own
No need to get all catty and personal about it! This thread literally contains "Xbox vs. PS4 vs. PC" as it's main point, so saying why one system is better or worse or comparing them in any way at all is the goal of the thread.

It's not the "Xbox & PS4" thread. It's the "Xbox VS PS4" thread. Hope that helps!

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by Chill Cosby

Exactly true, so I humbly await your "manning up" to it.

Nobody except a fanboy would get so blatantly and personally offended over somebody saying something bad about a console. Quit the hypocrisy of calling other people fanboys and trolls and get into the fun of the thread!

It's video games. Quit trashing other posters and get back to trashing the systems they own
No need to get all catty and personal about it! This thread literally contains "Xbox vs. PS4 vs. PC" as it's main point, so saying why one system is better or worse or comparing them in any way at all is the goal of the thread.

It's not the "Xbox & PS4" thread. It's the "Xbox VS PS4" thread. Hope that helps!

Man up to what? I stated in the quoted post that the PS4 is a good console. I'm not the one trying to diminish what some other console has to offer. The entire mentality of it actually makes no sense to me.

But fair enough. If that's what this thread is, go at it. I have no more desire to talk about it.

[Rhettzky]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Its hilarious actually. Estrada pretty much hit the bullseye with pointing out what Chemgear does. The dude is the biggest troll then he starts trying to cover it up with some nonsense about being interested in all opinions. Just take a look at 90% of his posts in the thread, its like he get's paid by Sony to smear the Xbox brand. I actually hope he does get paid, because if he doesn't its just weird. Honestly if you're going to be a fanboy just man up to it. Dancing around it is pointless.

90% of his posts are links to articles on gaming sites. I really have trouble seeing how that is trolling. Microsoft took a lot of heat this year for their early Xbox1 policies and the lack of 1080 on cross-platform titles. So understandably there was lots of discussion around that on most gaming sites.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Igottago

Honestly if you're going to be a fanboy just man up to it. Dancing around it is pointless.

Good heavens, everybody knows I'm absolutely a fanboy for gaming! Vita, 3DS, Xbone, PS4. You name, I buy it and game on it. Except the Ouya. I'm lucky enough that I can pile in money into it without much thought. Heck, I've even been lucky enough to visit a bunch of video game developers and meet many of the people behind the games and their music.

I'd suggest that it is clear that Microsoft stumbled with the Xbone launch and messaging (though improving a bit since Mattrick left) while Sony has done pretty decent by mostly keeping their head down. Of course, I do like what Sony has done so far with the PS4 versus the Xbone with Microsoft blowing off their own toes every other month. Their PR has been clearer, they haven't really shot themselves in the foot and I'm guessing it'll be my default multiplatform console for this generation just based on the sheer performance difference. Just like the 360 was over the PS3.

I'd also suggest that a LOT of people in North America and the rest of world feel the same given how the sales of the new consoles are going. A lot of internet and gaming forums lean that way as well. Heck, look at the poll in this very thread. It's always been a god damn landslide just like the sales numbers right now. And that is just because there are literally more people around the world buying into Sony's console/vision versus Microsoft right now and it only seems to be accelerating.

I understand it can be hip to go against the tide and I do think Microsoft is doing better but they can't seem to get the messaging of their console straight (at least to me). And "going against the tide" doesn't make the points invalid and not worth considering. I just might not agree with it. I guess you could call the 2/3's of the new generation console owners "fanboys" (I'm leaving out the poor Wii U owners). At some point I guess you can start calling them "sheep" or other names as well. Personally, I don't mind you calling me names but I hope my points are reasonably sane even if they are common with the greater tide of other gamers here and around the world.

I don't mind hearing and considering your viewpoints too but I'll try to refrain from calling you names even if I don't agree with you.

[psicodude]

Maybe it's time to kill this thread with fire and create two separate ones again because this is just stupid now. The odd post about news is overshadowed by the same group of posters calling each other names for 30 posts in a row.

[photon]

Originally Posted by psicodude

Maybe it's time to kill this thread with fire and create two separate ones again because this is just stupid now. The odd post about news is overshadowed by the same group of posters calling each other names for 30 posts in a row.

Wasn't that the point of this thread to begin with? To get the console wars out of the news threads?

Then it just became the defacto console news thread.

Could just start a new console news thread.

[psicodude]

Originally Posted by photon

Wasn't that the point of this thread to begin with? To get the console wars out of the news threads?

Heh, good point.

[ernie]

Finished Ryse over the weekend. Really did enjoy the game a tremendous amount. Some very challenging sections (well for this old gamer) and the story I thought was well done. We'll ignore the dubious breast physics.

Started Tomb Raider (definitive edition). Another game that has been sitting due to my obsession with Fifa 14. Only about 10% in but they did a spectacular job of immediately drawing you into the game.

[PsYcNeT]

It would be a crying shame to kill my only successful long-term thread ever. I would recommend resurrecting the XBone/PS4 specific threads for news reasons, though this thread really doesn't move fast enough for it to get buried here IMO.

[Russic]

Originally Posted by photon

Wasn't that the point of this thread to begin with? To get the console wars out of the news threads?

Then it just became the defacto console news thread.

Could just start a new console news thread.

Ya I vote we just keep this thread as the video game Chernobyl that it is.