That's probably it, but what a weird thing to say. The top of the draft was four players deep, with a very realistic chance that each player could go anywhere from 1–4. A player like Josh Ho Sang or Roland McKeown are players that I would say had fallen, but not Sam Bennett.
Well if the comparison is Toews, he did fall to #3 because Jordan Staal went ahead of him. Looking back you'd have to think the Pens would have rather gotten Toews than Staal. In the future either Buffalo or EDM may have similar regrets about passing on Bennett and letting him fall to us if their guy doesn't measure up.
To some he did fall. Both CSS and Redline had him as the best player in the entire draft and we got him at 4. Falling is falling, doesn't have to be a huge fall IMO for it to be a fall.
Well if the comparison is Toews, he did fall to #3 because Jordan Staal went ahead of him. Looking back you'd have to think the Pens would have rather gotten Toews than Staal. In the future either Buffalo or EDM may have similar regrets about passing on Bennett and letting him fall to us if their guy doesn't measure up.
To some he did fall. Both CSS and Redline had him as the best player in the entire draft and we got him at 4. Falling is falling, doesn't have to be a huge fall IMO for it to be a fall.
When I look back on drafts and how players develop, I often wonder if players would have turned out the way they did regardless of the team they were developed by or if team development enabled it.
Had Toews ended up in Pittsburgh and Staal in Chicago, would their careers have unfolded the same or would they have each others' careers, or somewhere in between.
I think back to the draft where the Flames traded down to get Kidd and NJ took Brodeur with the Flames pick. Had that trade not happened and Kidd went to NJ and Brodeur to the Flames, would the Flames have ruined Brodeur's development?
Anyway, I guess I'm always curious as to whether a player would have determined his own career or if it would have changed based on different development paths in different organizations.
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It's been almost 5 days and this Bennett thing is still sinking in for me.
I think his arrival at Development Camp will help as the pics of the kid wearing a Flames practice jersey will start leaking out everywhere.
How often do things just go the way you want them to go in life? Was simply amazed on Friday night.
I'm going to let the dog days arrive (mid July), but will be fun to get that prospect ranking process started again. Loved having that from last summer when that Oilers trade went down. To see guys we ranked 11th and 15th (guessing) go to the Oilers in a trade that they had as "Calgary's best prospects" was a blast.
Fairly certain I know where Bennett lands this summer in the rank.
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The only thing that concerns me with Bennett is that he played on a high octane, veteran offensive team this past season. His Kingston team averaged near a full goal per game more than Reinhart, Draisaitl or Dal Colles teams.
If a bunch of those veteran forwards leave the team this offseason, I dont think it would be crazy to suggest that Bennetts points per game average might not increase very much if at all this season, which may worry some people. Its something to keep an eye on anyway.
The only thing that concerns me with Bennett is that he played on a high octane, veteran offensive team this past season. His Kingston team averaged near a full goal per game more than Reinhart, Draisaitl or Dal Colles teams.
If a bunch of those veteran forwards leave the team this offseason, I dont think it would be crazy to suggest that Bennetts points per game average might not increase very much if at all this season, which may worry some people. Its something to keep an eye on anyway.
Doesn't worry me all that much. He led the team in scoring by a long shot.
(They'll also have a fair number of the top players back.)
I still can't believe we landed this kid. I guess I'm so used to the fact that for so long, Calgary had always drafted either "safe" third line potential prospects, or high risk high reward type prospects, the thought of drafting an elite prospect still hasn't really sunk in yet. I mean, this kid could potentially be a franchise type of player. The past two years with Monahan and Bennett have made me a giddy Flames fan, that's for sure.
Don't know what to say (for the first time in my life). Bennett IS the player the flames organization has dreamed about since they lost Nieuwendyk. The kind of center we prayed for iginla in his prime!
The benefit (or luxury) of being able to send him back to junior, if necessary, because of Monahan being NHL ready, and because other prospects (like Gaudreau and Poirer and Reinhart) are already showing signs of being ready. I honestly have to ask if Edmonton drafted the best player available, or the best NHL ready player?
I had almost no interest in Draisaitl. He seems to me as a "Monahan-lite". Size and strength, but something missing. No elite speed, and I assume he will be rushed onto the top 2 lines up north, thus become NO GOOD.
What a difference it makes when your management is trying to win a cup, and not trying to make themselves look good, by telling people how they "know a thing about winning"!
The only thing that concerns me with Bennett is that he played on a high octane, veteran offensive team this past season. His Kingston team averaged near a full goal per game more than Reinhart, Draisaitl or Dal Colles teams.
If a bunch of those veteran forwards leave the team this offseason, I dont think it would be crazy to suggest that Bennetts points per game average might not increase very much if at all this season, which may worry some people. Its something to keep an eye on anyway.
I wouldn't worry about it so much. When you watch Bennett's highlights, one thing that stands out is how much offence he generates on his own. He makes good use of his linemates, but he often makes something out of nothing and drives the net hard with the puck himself. He is obviously the biggest threat on his team, and I would imagine other teams have been keying-in on him for much of past season.
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I'm going to love his 'no-quit' attitude. Fits right into Hartley's system. Remember our 2010 team, giving up every single game, with the lead or not? Those were indeed some dark days.
I don't mean to derail this thread at all, but can someone describe to me what NHL E is?
NHLe or NHL equivalency is the projected NHL point totals for a player playing in another league.
Each league has it's own equivalency (this equivalency is calculated based on historical values of players making the jump from their respective league to the NHL). For example the OHL has an equivalency rate of .30. Meaning that every point in the OHL is projected to be .30 points in the NHL.
So to calculate the NHLe for any player, you take their pts/g * the league equivalency * 82, and that gives a "projection" of what that means in terms of NHL points.
Obviously this is not perfect and there are flaws in this type of analysis.
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