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			Glencross is a left wing.. Raymond can play left or right wing.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 12:24 AM
			
			
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			Smart signing.  Always impressed by this guy and he always scores on us.  He can move up and down the line up into different spots.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 12:25 AM
			
			
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				Smart signing.  Always impressed by this guy and he always scores on us.  He can move up and down the line up into different spots. 
			
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			07-02-2014, 03:11 AM
			
			
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			Good utility player with good character.   
 
Treliving living up to his early quotes that he's about building around character players.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 08:07 AM
			
			
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			CapGeek @capgeek 
Mason Raymond's cap hit is actually $3.15M and he gets a modified NTC.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 08:23 AM
			
			
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			I'm ok with this signing...it fills a hole with a young-ish fast guy who will work hard and who wants to be here.  
 
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			07-02-2014, 09:24 AM
			
			
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				CapGeek @capgeek 
Mason Raymond's cap hit is actually $3.15M and he gets a modified NTC. 
			
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Can we get any details on his modified NTC? How handcuffed are the Flames management in flipping him at a deadline?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 09:43 AM
			
			
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			You know what, between Selanne retiring, Ribeiro being bought out, and signing Raymond, Flames might actually end up a bit higher in the standings than we'd expect.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 09:48 AM
			
			
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				You know what, between Selanne retiring, Ribeiro being bought out, and signing Raymond, Flames might actually end up a bit higher in the standings than we'd expect. 
			
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I don't see any correlation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 09:52 AM
			
			
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				I don't see any correlation. 
			
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			07-02-2014, 10:02 AM
			
			
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				You know what, between Selanne retiring, Ribeiro being bought out, and signing Raymond, Flames might actually end up a bit higher in the standings than we'd expect. 
			
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Flames entrenched in last in the west. Quite easily imo.  
If, by a but higher you mean 13th instead of 14th , I suppose that is possible.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 10:05 AM
			
			
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				Flames entrenched in last in the west. Quite easily imo.  
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Has Edmonton officially been relegated to the AHL, or do you really think they'll be better than Calgary?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2014, 01:19 PM
			
			
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			Edmonton may have marginally improved.  The forward core is still soft as butter left on my deck yesterday afternoon, but they are better on D than they were.  Having said that, they are still very likely bottom 2 in the league, and I'm struggling to think who is worse than them on D.  Their goaltending had a few good games after the trades ("oh ya, look at Scrivens save over 50 shots and get a shut out - see it was the goalie's fault all along") but is still pretty average to below average and behind that craptastic D and forwards that refuse to play any D whatsoever, I don't expect they'll improve much on their dead last in goals against stat from last year. 
 
Plus they still have the worst coach in the league.  Hard to imagine them being anything other than a bottom five team in the league again.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2014, 07:59 PM
			
			
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			Raymond is a horrible player. Zero IQ, zero vision, zero physicality. Plays like a true wuss. Not sure what Treliving is thinking on this conract. Absolutely useless in the playoffs but the Flames won't have to worry about that for the duration of his contract.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2014, 08:09 PM
			
			
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			I'm OK with this signing. he has speed and some offensive upside which we're gonna need badly this year. 
If not everyone will be OK with one of the kids taking his place in the line up.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2014, 08:14 PM
			
			
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				Flames sign Mason Raymond (3yrs, $3.15mil AAV, modified NTC)
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				Raymond is a horrible player. Zero IQ, zero vision, zero physicality. Plays like a true wuss. Not sure what Treliving is thinking on this conract. Absolutely useless in the playoffs but the Flames won't have to worry about that for the duration of his contract. 
			
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				Absolutely hilariou contract. This guy is a 6th defensemen at best. Almost as bad as the Nikitin contract. 
			
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				Awful pick but not surprising. 2nd round pick on a potential 4th liner. Even worse than the Kanzig pick. 
			
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			07-06-2014, 08:19 PM
			
			
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				What? 
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Dig deeper, you're sure to find some gold. Not even trying to mask up the trolling.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2014, 08:20 PM
			
			
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			Yeah, surprised he hasn't been banned yet.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2014, 08:24 PM
			
			
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				Raymond is a horrible player. Zero IQ, zero vision, zero physicality. Plays like a true wuss. Not sure what Treliving is thinking on this conract. Absolutely useless in the playoffs but the Flames won't have to worry about that for the duration of his contract. 
			
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Interesting how your Canucks declined after he left...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-06-2014, 08:35 PM
			
			
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				Raymond is a horrible player. Zero IQ, zero vision, zero physicality. Plays like a true wuss. Not sure what Treliving is thinking on this conract. Absolutely useless in the playoffs but the Flames won't have to worry about that for the duration of his contract. 
			
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Good ol' fashion straight down the middle troll. 2002 throwback style.  Let's keep him.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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