10-17-2013, 11:31 AM
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#341
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right on the cusp
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10-17-2013, 11:56 AM
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#342
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In the Sin Bin
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Well, I'll give Hall points for having the right attitude. However, the teams with "lots of skill" they were sticking with were the always inconsistent Capitals, and a Penguins team that pretty much half-assed it - and still won.
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10-17-2013, 12:09 PM
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#343
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Franchise Player
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Oilers last year- Shots for:26.5 Shots against:32.2
-5.7 per game
Oilers this year- Shots for:24.7 Shots against:25.8
-1.1 per game
Its still early but there's huge improvement there. They have gone from terribad to the mushy middle.
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10-17-2013, 12:28 PM
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#344
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Oilers last year- Shots for:26.5 Shots against:32.2
-5.7 per game
Oilers this year- Shots for:24.7 Shots against:25.8
-1.1 per game
Its still early but there's huge improvement there. They have gone from terribad to the mushy middle.
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When teams get up by 2 of 3 goals they tend to start shooting less. But you knew that right?
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10-17-2013, 12:34 PM
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#345
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Nostradamus
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London Ont.
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Originally Posted by Taylor Hall
. I have a different feel with this group.”
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It's just gas
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10-17-2013, 01:07 PM
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#346
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by mikephoen
When teams get up by 2 of 3 goals they tend to start shooting less. But you knew that right?
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There are guys that actually track the shots differential both when the score is tied and when there is a one goal differential.
The oilers are doing much better in that area as well.
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10-17-2013, 01:15 PM
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#347
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Butler for Yakupov, make it happen Feaster.
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10-17-2013, 01:16 PM
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#348
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
There are guys that actually track the shots differential both when the score is tied and when there is a one goal differential.
The oilers are doing much better in that area as well.
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I like your optimism. Sounds familiar;
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Originally Posted by Every Oilers fan since 2007
Yep the turnaround is imminent.
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10-17-2013, 01:19 PM
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#349
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Wins be damned! The shot differential is getting better!
What's next, they may be 1-7 but they have less defensive draws then last year!
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10-17-2013, 01:30 PM
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#350
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Our Jessica Fletcher
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Oilers last year- Shots for:26.5 Shots against:32.2
-5.7 per game
Oilers this year- Shots for:24.7 Shots against:25.8
-1.1 per game
Its still early but there's huge improvement there. They have gone from terribad to the mushy middle.
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I don't think shots against is telling much of the story though in Edmonton's case. It's where the shots are coming from.
A few days ago someone had posted a graphic from Sportsnet, detailing where the opposition's shots came from in an EDM game, and a high percentage seemed to come from the high slot if I remember correctly. The number of harmless perimeter shots seemed lower than expected... however I don't have the stats on that sort of thing so my expectations could have just been off.
Anyone know where to find that stuff?
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10-17-2013, 01:44 PM
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#351
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikephoen
When teams get up by 2 of 3 goals they tend to start shooting less. But you knew that right?
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Shots mean crap all. Give us the goals and goals against stat. and then the win and losses stat....
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10-17-2013, 01:50 PM
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#352
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Calgary
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I think they should trade 1 of the prima donnas (Yak) for a more gritty 2 way young player. I guess it could bite them on the ass like the Hodgeson/Kassian trade for Van (maybe.... still to early on that one) but they should do something to change the culture.
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10-17-2013, 02:00 PM
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#353
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fonz
I don't think shots against is telling much of the story though in Edmonton's case. It's where the shots are coming from.
A few days ago someone had posted a graphic from Sportsnet, detailing where the opposition's shots came from in an EDM game, and a high percentage seemed to come from the high slot if I remember correctly. The number of harmless perimeter shots seemed lower than expected... however I don't have the stats on that sort of thing so my expectations could have just been off.
Anyone know where to find that stuff?
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It is actually TSN game tracker. Click on the game tracker banner on their website.
Last edited by Robbob; 10-17-2013 at 02:03 PM.
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10-17-2013, 02:34 PM
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#354
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Here's the shots from the game against Winnipeg:
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10-17-2013, 02:46 PM
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#355
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Yakupov until he proves otherwise is young player that is 1 dimensional and unwilling to learn or commit to the the other phases of being a quality NHL player.
Do I feel sorry for the Oilers hell no. There was red flags about this before he was drafted.
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10-17-2013, 02:52 PM
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#356
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
Here's the shots from the game against Winnipeg:
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Show the oilers shots as well. Bet they had just as many. Then compare that to the Flames vs Ducks game last night. Anaheim gave up a 2-0 breakaway and look where Selanne scored from.
You rarely see a hockey game where both teams don't get some good chances to score. I don't think the quality of shots given up by the oilers is drastically different then other average to below average teams defensively.
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10-17-2013, 02:56 PM
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#357
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Man I thought Eakins might turn the team around...
I know it's early but this team is a cold mess....
I don't understand why they even drafted Yakupov if they want him to play like someone he's not. Recipe for a guy booting back to the KHL...
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10-17-2013, 03:02 PM
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#358
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Show the oilers shots as well. Bet they had just as many. Then compare that to the Flames vs Ducks game last night. Anaheim gave up a 2-0 breakaway and look where Selanne scored from.
You rarely see a hockey game where both teams don't get some good chances to score. I don't think the quality of shots given up by the oilers is drastically different then other average to below average teams defensively.
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32 goals against in 7 games kind of speaks for itself.
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10-17-2013, 03:34 PM
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#359
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Oil Stain
Show the oilers shots as well. Bet they had just as many. Then compare that to the Flames vs Ducks game last night. Anaheim gave up a 2-0 breakaway and look where Selanne scored from.
You rarely see a hockey game where both teams don't get some good chances to score. I don't think the quality of shots given up by the oilers is drastically different then other average to below average teams defensively.
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Flames Vs. Ducks
Flames Vs Canadiens
Calgary is porous defensively, but you can see that Calgary allows fewer shots against in the middle of the ice and the slot.
Even as a porous defensive club, the team limits high % shots against by keeping shooting opportunities to the outside.
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Here is the 5-5 shots for the Jets (white) and Oilers (blue)
You can see that the Oilers still give up an apparently disproportionate amount of shots low and in the middle of the ice while the Oilers' shots are more limited to the circles/outside, with many of the oilers' shots coming in lower percentage areas like along the goal line near the faceoff circles.
Last edited by Flash Walken; 10-17-2013 at 03:52 PM.
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10-17-2013, 04:00 PM
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#360
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Arbitrary end point, basic stats, small sample size and all that, so take it with a grain of salt, but interesting none the less.
Jonathan Willis @JonathanWillis 4m First 53 career NHL games. Taylor Hall: 17G-16A-33PTS, -7. Nail Yakupov: 17G-14A-31PTS, -8. #Oilers
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