Rumor Philadelphia interested in Glencross

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Dagger

Actually come to think of it, wouldn't be surprised to see a Sven for B. Schenn trade of some sorts. We know BB loves Schenn and has not exactly been Sven's biggest fan publicly. Not saying it'll happen, just that I won't go into shock should that occur.

That's the main reason I proposed it. I think Burke loves the Schenns and wants the team to get bigger and harder to play against. Both Schenns add size and toughness to the Calgary Flames. Not sure it is the right trade for Calgary but not a shocking trade

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Uhh, obviously not if I was the Flames, considering that 1st is likely to be top 5.

But a playoff team (ex. the Blues 1st pick last season) would most certainly give that and more for a player like Glencross.

Is Philly a playoff team?

Do they think that with the addition of Glencross for Brayden Schenn that their 2014 1st rounder will be #20 overall?

That is how the Leafs gave up the #2 pick for Kessell. They never ever thought that when they added Kessll that they would be a lottery team.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

According to the article I posted, the Flyers have been scouting the Flames and the Flames have been scouting the Flyers. There definitely is smoke there - whether it be Glencross or other players, there seems to be at least a mutual interest there.

On SN Fan 960 they were talking about the Flames having interest in Read. I'm not sure if that was something they picked up on from another source or if it was just something that they thought would be a good fit. They also mentioned Coburn.

[Ashasx]

I really can't believe some of you guys. Glencross has one of the best contracts in the league and some of you are looking to offload him to any team that is willing.

I mean, Meszaros? Jesus Christ guys.

Glencross is just one of the 600 flawed players in the NHL. He's not perfect, he's never been perfect, he's not paid to be perfect. But appreciate what good this team has. It's been 3 games. Before you know it, Glencross, like Iginla, Kipper, and Bouwmeester before him, won't be here, and you'll wish he was.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Is Philly a playoff team?

Do they think that with the addition of Glencross for Brayden Schenn that their 2014 1st rounder will be #20 overall?

That is how the Leafs gave up the #2 pick for Kessell. They never ever thought that when they added Kessll that they would be a lottery team.

I'm not asking for Brayden Schenn (I'm certainly not asking for Luke, who is simply terrible), but I sure as hell wouldn't trade Glencross if the main piece coming back is a 2nd round pick.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I really can't believe some of you guys. Glencross has one of the best contracts in the league and some of you are looking to offload him to any team that is willing.

I mean, Meszaros? Jesus Christ guys.

Glencross is just one of the 600 flawed players in the NHL. He's not perfect, he's never been perfect, he's not paid to be perfect. But appreciate what good this team has. It's been 3 games. Before you know it, Glencross, like Iginla, Kipper, and Bouwmeester before him, won't be here, and you'll wish he was.

I think there was only one poster that thought Meszaros for Glencross would be a good idea. Not sure why you keep going back to that trade proposal?

The question is if Glencross is part of the solution in 2+ years? I don't think they should re-sign him because of cost and term. Don't care if they don't trade him this year, but they better be doing it next year.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by FlamesAllTheWay

Also worth more than Iginla and Bouwmeester it looks like

Were Iginla and Bouwmeester 3-4 M under market value for the next 2 years?

apparently not as they just signed for less than the Flames were paying them.

Glencross's next contract will not be for 2.5M.

[PeteMoss]

Wasn't Burke's deal in Toronto that he wouldn't ask players to waive NTC.

[bluloc]

If the return was right absolutely. Not sure why everyone's so high on Glencross he's a decent player but inconsistent as hell and a lot of the times he just looks down right lazy. I bet Philly would over pay for his services.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Wasn't Burke's deal in Toronto that he wouldn't ask players to waive NTC.

The only thing I remember is that he said he doesn't hand them out unless the player is very deserving and referred to JS Giguere's kid being sick and needing to be at the same hospital for consistent treatment when they were both in Anaheim.

[Samiz]

Glencross is pretty much a lock for 20-30 goals, and 40-50 points. He has bad games, but so do all streaky players. The reasons his mistakes stand out so much is because he is a checking forward and is responsible to playing against the top guys quite a lot. A few weeks back, he was even in the conversation to be the captain of this team and now people are suggesting we trade him away for bad value while he is on a cold streak.

When he's on his game, I'd even go as far and say that it's one of the most cost efficient contracts in the league. Plus, he has Calgary in his blood and loves the city. He's the epitome of the player you want for a rebuild as a vet

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I'm not asking for Brayden Schenn (I'm certainly not asking for Luke, who is simply terrible), but I sure as hell wouldn't trade Glencross if the main piece coming back is a 2nd round pick.

hey I wasn't arguing with you.... just building on your point that a team who thinks they are a lock for a playoff spot does not put as much value in their first round pick as the Flames do.

If Philly thinks they are a lock for the playoffs they may not consider their 1st round as important as it actually might turn out to be.

Signing all the veterans to big contracts gives the impression that the Flyer's management thinks they are in the running for the SC..... Right now.... They are not going to improve with age.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I really can't believe some of you guys. Glencross has one of the best contracts in the league and some of you are looking to offload him to any team that is willing.

I mean, Meszaros? Jesus Christ guys.

Glencross is just one of the 600 flawed players in the NHL. He's not perfect, he's never been perfect, he's not paid to be perfect. But appreciate what good this team has. It's been 3 games. Before you know it, Glencross, like Iginla, Kipper, and Bouwmeester before him, won't be here, and you'll wish he was.

I don't think it is people outright hating Glencross because he is a whiner. It is more of situation where people realize that he brings more benefits to his team than negatives, but that one negative he does bring is something that is concerning. So, why not trade him now while his return is likely to be very high? Most people are placing higher value on what Glencross can fetch the Flames in trade than what Glencross can bring on the ice. They are using his moments of lackluster effort and seemingly poor attitude (when he's down) to validate the reason to trade him.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by bluloc

If the return was right absolutely. Not sure why everyone's so high on Glencross he's a decent player but inconsistent as hell and a lot of the times he just looks down right lazy. I bet Philly would over pay for his services.

who the heck is consistent????

Even Ovechkin sucked for stretches last year. Brad Richards drove Tortorella crazy.... Brad Richards I would have thought was one of the most consistent players over the last 10 years. Obviously Torts thought he wasn't playing as hard as he could.

I think the Flames fans just got so used to Iginla and Kipper playing exactly as advertised year after year.


The all time CP poster boy for lazy and inconsistency is a critical top line forward with the Canadiens. They are not calling for a do over on the Cammalleri trade.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I think posters underestimate how much winning means to most players. The bolded part was the same stuff i heard for reasons that Iggy would never leave Calgary.

Also durring the year how much time does he spend on his ranch? I have to think very little.

That leaves the wife's family. I know I'd be looking forward to extended road trips

[moon]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Is Philly a playoff team?

Do they think that with the addition of Glencross for Brayden Schenn that their 2014 1st rounder will be #20 overall?

That is how the Leafs gave up the #2 pick for Kessell. They never ever thought that when they added Kessll that they would be a lottery team.

Why would they think that downgrading from Schenn to Glencross makes them a play-off team?

Insane that they would consider that deal straight across let alone throw in a first.

[Vinny01]

Read the HF thread on the Flyers board L.Schenn is one of their untouchables. Trying to pawn off Grossman who is not going to get the Glencross

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by moon

Why would they think that downgrading from Schenn to Glencross makes them a play-off team?

Insane that they would consider that deal straight across let alone throw in a first.

Because Schenn best fits in a as 3rd line centre with them and has not been top 6 productive in the NHL. He is not a top 6 forward at this point in his career.

They also have Couturier who is crowding the centre spot and being tagged to play out of position.


Glencross gives them someone to play LW with either Giroux or Vinny. Hartnell can not play on both lines.


Giroux and Voracek are the Flyers best players and they are softies. They need tougher harder checkers to play on their lines.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Before you know it, Glencross, like Iginla, Kipper, and Bouwmeester before him, won't be here, and you'll wish he was.

Besides sentimental reasons for Iggy and Kipper, I don't wish any of those players were here. For better or worse, it's time to close that chapter of Flames history, and look forward to the next generation.

Glencross is not part of that next generation, and we need an exit strategy. Right now he's one of our most valuable assets, but with his age, won't be here by the time things turn around. Whether it's now, at the trade deadline, or next year....we need to do what we can to maximize return on him.

Until then, we hope he plays the best hockey of his life. But it's completely to build up value, not be an answer to our problems.

[Stay Golden]

Feaster/Burke should be in the drivers seat if Glencross is moved to Philly. Flyers need a Glencross player and the Flames don't need to move him unless the package is a can't ignore type deal in favor of Calgary. His contract isn't up until 2015.