[Rumour] Flames willing to move #6 pick for top D or #1 center

[Five-hole]

Honestly, if Feaster wasn't trying to see what he could get for the 6th pick, he's not doing his job. Part of doing that is "leaking" to the media that they're looking to move it. Some GM hearing that Calgary is looking to move the 6th is not the same as if Jay calls that guy up and says "so, what'll you give me for #6?"

Deep breaths everyone.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Like I said before, these picks are burning a hole in Feaster's pockets. This team simply cannot commit to rebuilding the right way. Sure it may not happen and they may keep the pick but IMO the 6th pick shouldn't be on the table for anything but moving up in this draft. It's almost like the Flames are trying to outdo Edmonton in being the attention whores of the draft. I hate that management of this team. I hate it.

And I love that you hate it.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Incredible how your excitement going into a deep draft with 3 first round picks can die so quickly...

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Super-Rye

FYP.

Honestly if the Flames can package Gaudreau, the 6th + for Seguin + they have to do it. It would be the first time in a long time they, possibly, sold high on a prospect.

We watched the Flames try to find a center for Iggy for so many years. Seguin will be a top center in this league for many years and having Baertschi being almost the same age, they could be Calgary's top duo for the next 10-15 years.

Well if you truly believe Gaudrau will be an NHL player then his value still isn't at its highest.

[Vinny01]

I could see 6+JG for Seguin but not sure I like it not sure I dislike it either. I want a trade that I will love right away. That is getting Seguin while keeping Brodie, Sven, 6. Everything else is on the table: JG, Glencross, 22, 28, Gio (combo of these assets)

[freakinsaprikin]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Well the question has to be asked if Seguin is a true #1 center. He's got a lot of money coming his way in the next six years. I'm not sure if he's better than Monahan or Lindholm for this franchise when you consider where this team is at currently and the money Seguin already is under contract for.

That's only true if the player the Flames draft at 6 is just as good or better than what Seguin is or will be.

You also have to consider that the flames don't have to worry about paying any big money contracts over the next few years.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

If Philly ever trades Read for what they seem to have him valued at Holmgren will have made up for that Bryzgalov blunder.

Really though since Forsberg in 91, the #6 pick has been pretty underwhelming in a lot of drafts. No way I'd trade it for this return as it doesn't get the Flames where they need to be. But a team like the Oilers could really use a Dman like Coburn.

Here's the 6th picks since 1980:

Paul Coffey
Jim Benning
Phil Housley
John MacLean
Craig Redmond
Brad Dalgarno
Vincent Damphousse
Dave Archibald
Scott Pearson
Adam Bennett
Scott Scissons
Peter Forsberg
Cory Stillman
Viktor Kozlov
Ryan Smyth
Steve Kelly
Boyd Devereaux
Daniel Tkaczuk
Rico Fata
Brian Finley
Scott Hartnell
Mikko Koivu
Scottie Upshall
Milan Michalek
Al Montoya
Gilbert Brule
Derick Brassard
Sam Gagner
Nikita Filatov
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Brett Connolly
Mika Zibanejad
Hampus Lindholm

Let's face it, for the vast majority, their highest value was on draft day prior to the pick. If Feaster could parlay the potential people see in the #6 pick to a known young centre, he'd be a fool not to consider it.

[Super-Rye]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Well if you truly believe Gaudrau will be an NHL player then his value still isn't at its highest.

I do believe he is going to be an NHL player but I don't know squat. That's why I said possibly. ;-)

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Here's the 6th picks since 1980:

Paul Coffey
Jim Benning
Phil Housley
John MacLean
Craig Redmond
Brad Dalgarno
Vincent Damphousse
Dave Archibald
Scott Pearson
Adam Bennett
Scott Scissons
Peter Forsberg
Cory Stillman
Viktor Kozlov
Ryan Smyth
Steve Kelly
Boyd Devereaux
Daniel Tkaczuk
Rico Fata
Brian Finley
Scott Hartnell
Mikko Koivu
Scottie Upshall
Milan Michalek
Al Montoya
Gilbert Brule
Derick Brassard
Sam Gagner
Nikita Filatov
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Brett Connolly
Mika Zibanejad
Hampus Lindholm

Let's face it, for the vast majority, their highest value was on draft day prior to the pick. If Feaster could parlay the potential people see in the #6 pick to a known young centre, he'd be a fool not to consider it.

That is a truly underwhelming group. One solid NHLer every 5 or 6 years since Forsberg. It makes me sad that we aren't in the top 5.

[kehatch]

Sounds like we offered the 6 for Coburn, Read, and the 11. Philly turned us down.

Good deal for Calgary value wise. But it shows that the Flames are still looking for a band aid if it is true.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

That is a truly underwhelming group. One solid NHLer every 5 or 6 years since Forsberg. It makes me sad that we aren't in the top 5.

I was thinking the same thing, very underwhelming. Wouldn't mind moving up or getting a guy like Seguin with this pick. This should be an interesting sunday, I am so excited!

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Here's the 6th picks since 1980:
[...]
Let's face it, for the vast majority, their highest value was on draft day prior to the pick. If Feaster could parlay the potential people see in the #6 pick to a known young centre, he'd be a fool not to consider it.

Of course, but for that same reason the pick alone isn't nearly enough to get you that center. And neither will adding a Gaudreau be enough for Boston.

Getting Seguin would be wonderful but I don't think everyone realises how much it would cost. Gaudreau and a first doesn't get you near him.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Sounds like we offered the 6 for Coburn, Read, and the 11. Philly turned us down.

Good deal for Calgary value wise. But it shows that the Flames are still looking for a band aid if it is true.

Pretty sure it's the other way around.

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by kehatch

Sounds like we offered the 6 for Coburn, Read, and the 11. Philly turned us down.

Good deal for Calgary value wise. But it shows that the Flames are still looking for a band aid if it is true.

That or Feaster has fallen in love with someone he can probably get later than 6.....if he can't move down I'm very worried he'll pull his usual stunt of going against the grain.

[Henry Fool]

There's also the general issue of looking at statistics of how uncertain the draft is and concluding that you're better off getting something known rather than gambling. The downside of that philosophy is that you'll never get to have the type of players that no team will ever trade away.

[Street Pharmacist]

Oh no! Reporter says Feaster shopping the 6th pick! We're done for!

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Here's the 6th picks since 1980:

Paul Coffey
Jim Benning
Phil Housley
John MacLean
Craig Redmond
Brad Dalgarno
Vincent Damphousse
Dave Archibald
Scott Pearson
Adam Bennett
Scott Scissons
Peter Forsberg
Cory Stillman
Viktor Kozlov
Ryan Smyth
Steve Kelly
Boyd Devereaux
Daniel Tkaczuk
Rico Fata
Brian Finley
Scott Hartnell
Mikko Koivu
Scottie Upshall
Milan Michalek
Al Montoya
Gilbert Brule
Derick Brassard
Sam Gagner
Nikita Filatov
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Brett Connolly
Mika Zibanejad
Hampus Lindholm

Let's face it, for the vast majority, their highest value was on draft day prior to the pick. If Feaster could parlay the potential people see in the #6 pick to a known young centre, he'd be a fool not to consider it.

This draft is rather deep though, so it is more probable that the guy at 6 will be better than some of the others on the list. If we got a Scott Hartnell, Mikko Koivu, Milan Michalek, Sam Gagner, OEL, Brett Connolly or Mika Zibanejad with our #6 pick, that would be good. Each of those players is either a 1st or 2nd liner. Not a star star player among them, but a lot of very good quality players. That's the type of guy we could use now, and with future picks we could get more star calibre players.

Good supporting cast guys are important too.

[Otto29]

Originally Posted by Mike F

Here's the 6th picks since 1980:

Paul Coffey
Jim Benning
Phil Housley
John MacLean
Craig Redmond
Brad Dalgarno
Vincent Damphousse
Dave Archibald
Scott Pearson
Adam Bennett
Scott Scissons
Peter Forsberg
Cory Stillman
Viktor Kozlov
Ryan Smyth
Steve Kelly
Boyd Devereaux
Daniel Tkaczuk
Rico Fata
Brian Finley
Scott Hartnell
Mikko Koivu
Scottie Upshall
Milan Michalek
Al Montoya
Gilbert Brule
Derick Brassard
Sam Gagner
Nikita Filatov
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Brett Connolly
Mika Zibanejad
Hampus Lindholm

Let's face it, for the vast majority, their highest value was on draft day prior to the pick. If Feaster could parlay the potential people see in the #6 pick to a known young centre, he'd be a fool not to consider it.

You mean we can get another Rico Fata?

Here's a thought. First...stop saying Feaster because, trust me, there are other minds in the mindtrust making decisions. Second, even at 6th spot, its still a cprashoot.

[trackercowe]

Probably trying to grab Horvat at #11. That would be my guess at least.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

This draft is rather deep though, so it is more probable that the guy at 6 will be better than some of the others on the list. If we got a Scott Hartnell, Mikko Koivu, Milan Michalek, Sam Gagner, OEL, Brett Connolly or Mika Zibanejad with our #6 pick, that would be good. Each of those players is either a 1st or 2nd liner. Not a star star player among them, but a lot of very good quality players. That's the type of guy we could use now, and with future picks we could get more star calibre players.

Good supporting cast guys are important too.

ya, people have to remember that next year, most likely our pick will be in the top 5 and more likely in the top 3. This is when we get that star calibre player. I really just hope if Feaster does make a trade using the 6th overall this year it is a really, really good return. I still have faith in him but that could change after tomorrow.

Stay the course and draft the best player available at 6 if nothing that really helps us comes along.