2013 Calgary Flames Off Season Moves Speculation Thread

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

Goaltending:

Kiprusoff retires
Former 1st round pick Irving cuts ties with franchise (a lesson as to why we shouldn't be picking a goalie in the 1st round in the coming draft)
MacDonald and Brossoit wind up with the NHL jobs
Ramo retreats back to KHL,
and Berra plays with Ortio in the AHL.
Gillies continues to age like a fine wine in Hockey East.
Taylor joins whatever AHL squad Irving signs with and beats him out of his starting job there too.

Defense:

Giordano, Wideman, Brodie remain in the top 3 rotation.
Cundari and Breen make the squad as rookies.
Babchuck walks, Carson does too.
Sarich, Butler and Smith fill out the backend roster.
Wotherspoon pulls a Brodie and plays 4 games to start the season before being send down to Abbotsford.

Forwards:

to come (maybe...)

Ramo is high on Feaster's plans and will definately be over next year as Ramo has also expressed his desire to come over to us. Ramo has been a premiere goalie in the KHL with phenominal stats playing with talented professionals in the KHL. He might even be penciled in as the starter already with Joey Mac as the back-up.

Brossoit will be with Abby I believe with either Berra or Ortio- whomever impresses the most, and the loser goes back to Europe. Unless the Flames feel Brossoit needs one more year with his JR club, then Berra and Ortio will be in Abby. Only problem is, I believe they signed Taylor for another year so I'm not sure how this will factor in- sooner or later, one of these goalies have to be shopped because there just isn't any room for all of them.

Personally, I hope Butler is gone by next season and Breen makes the team. I'm not sure I am a fan of Tangs and his attitude anymore so I hope we can fetch something at the draft for him. I am still not a fan of Stajan- face-offs or not and hope we get something for him as well. I hope we let Jackman walk- he doesn't hardly fight anymore and IMO is just taking up valuable space and hardly chips in offensively anymore. I hope we keep Cammy for his leadership and offence- the team still needs some vets sprinkled in or else we will just be another Edmonton. I hope we give Cerkenka a fair chance- if he doesn't walk.

My wishlist of players:

Douglas Murray-D
Anton Volchenkov-D
Krejci- C
O'Reilly-C (yes, still- in Feb. of course)
Chris Stewart-R
Patrik Berglund-C
Wayne Simmonds-R
Derek Stepan-C (most likely untouchable now)

Mike Smith intrigues me a lot however, I believe he will ask too much $$ and term.

[cowtown75]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

A couple of moves I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the Flames make:

1. Something based around Cammalleri for Stastny.

• They have an abundance of centers and could use a winger, we have an abundance of wingers and could use a center

• Both make close to the same $$ and have similar cap hits

• Both are heading into final year of their contracts

• Flames and Avs aren't going to be division rivals anymore

• If Stastny doesn't end up being part of the long term solution in CGY, he can still be dealt as a rental next deadline...same for Cammy in COL

2. Something based around Tanguay for Wisniewski

• Different GM signed Wisniewski, new one might not be that attached to him

• When they signed Wisniewski, Nikitin hadn't established himself as a top 4 D-man yet

• They also hadn't yet acquired Johnson, Erixon or Murray either

• In other words, they are deep on D and could use a setup man for Gaborik

• We have an abundance of smaller, skilled wingers, and could use a top 4 Dman

• Tanguay is a similar player to Prospal (who is UFA), but 5 years younger

3. Attempt to cheaply acquire Joel Ward from Washington

• They have 4 big bodied RWers with Ovy, Brouwer, Fehr and Ward all signed for next year at a combined $17,705,129 cap hit

• Brouwer and Fehr just signed extensions, and Ovy isn't going anywhere...Ward could be the odd man out and might be cheaply acquired

• They are tight to the cap next year, and Ward carries a $3 million cap hit

• We need some big bodied, physical, tenacious right wingers and have plenty of cap space

• Ward, at 32, isn't "pre-apex" but he definitely brings an element that the Flames sorely lack

I think Ward is over-paid and only got his contract because of his flash in the pan playoff performance a couple of years ago. Not a fan of obtaining him at his price tag at all. Just because we have cap space, I think we should spend it wisely, and not on other GM's overpaid mistakes.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Raymond is an upgrade on Tanguay in the speed and youth aspect. Also plays better down low. A three headed LW combo of Glencross and Sven with Raymond certainly looks better to me. Add to that could likley pair extremely well with Stempniak and Stajan/Horak/Whoever to make one solid third line.

Here is a nice read on Raymond.

When you include the context of the type of minutes Raymond has played, it becomes even more of a worry. Raymond has started the vast majority of his shifts in the offensive zone and is fifth on the team in Offensive Zone Start Percentage, behind only the Sedins, Burrows, and Schroeder at 59.6%. In addition, Raymond has faced some of the weakest quality of competition among Canucks forwards: he is 9th on the team in Corsi Quality of Competition.

Essentially, Raymond has been given sheltered minutes, which makes sense since he played much of the season alongside a rookie centre, Schroeder. With those minutes, you would expect an offensively gifted player like Raymond to excel, but his puck possession statistics tell a different story.
At even-strength, this has actually been one of the worst seasons of his career.

If we account for ice time, this becomes clear. His even-strength points per 60 minutes are the third lowest of his career, ahead of only last season, when he was struggling to fully recover from his broken back, and his sophomore season. His even-strength goals per 60 minutes is the second lowest of his career, below even last season and ahead of just his sophomore season.

Theres more if anyone cares at this link

http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2013/04...meback-season/

Do not want.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Here is a nice read on Raymond.



Theres more if anyone cares at this link

http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2013/04...meback-season/

Do not want.

Agreed - perimeter player, hasn't been the same since his injury. Surprised Canucks did not move him at deadline for a pick. Now they get nothing.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Here is a nice read on Raymond.



Theres more if anyone cares at this link

http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2013/04...meback-season/

Do not want.

Why because the Canucks fans have soured on him because they know he's going to be leaving them in the offseason? He was more effective in the playoffs than Roy who's going to want $5 million/season on the market. We all know the guy isn't ideally a top 6 forward but he's a 3rd line guy with good speed that can score 20 goald and is a good on the penalty kill. Why wouldn't you want him in your bottom 6 if the price was right?

[metroneck]

Not a 20 goal scorer in the bottom 6, barely one in the top 6.

Does not have the grit, or puck pressure, to be a bottom 6 forward.

Yes, he is OK on the PK.

Good character.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Why because the Canucks fans have soured on him because they know he's going to be leaving them in the offseason? He was more effective in the playoffs than Roy who's going to want $5 million/season on the market. We all know the guy isn't ideally a top 6 forward but he's a 3rd line guy with good speed that can score 20 goald and is a good on the penalty kill. Why wouldn't you want him in your bottom 6 if the price was right?

For a big guy he is very soft. The flames do not need to add another soft top 9 player. As of now there really are not a lot of spots open, so i would pass. I'm not convinced Feaster is going to be able to move any of our players under contract this summer. Might as well wait until the deadline to get rid of Cammi, Stempniak and Stajan when their value is at it's highest. No point on getting rid of them now at a less price to bring in Raymond.

[bubbsy]

do not want raymond.

[dammage79]

I posted somewhere a few days ago I was starting to waiver on my desire for the Flames to sign Raymond. Something about keeping the Stink of the Canucks away from the Flames.

If they sign him I won't complain, if he doesn't sign in CGY I won't complain either. Kind of like Cervenka, would like to see him back but won't be upset if he goes.

[Dime_On_Flames]

Raymond reminds me of a bigger Lombardi

[Enoch Root]

The Flames are small and soft.

Adding Raymond would be like a flat ginger chick adding more freckles

[mrdonkey]

Raymond has "Jay Feaster special" written all over him. A soft, moderately skilled winger on the wrong side of his career. If he played center in junior he'd be the complete package.

Might as well slap a Flames jersey and a $3 million price tag on him right now.

[Roof-Daddy]

This one's for PMM:

Trade #1 - Flames trade 2014 1st (Flames), 2013 1st (Blues) to Tampa for 2013 3rd overall
Trade #2 - Flames trade Cammalleri to Colorado for Stastny
Trade #3 - Flames trade Tanguay, Butler to Columbus for Wisniewski
Trade #4 - Flames trade Stajan for a mid-round pick
Trade #5 - Flames trade Sarich for a late round pick

3rd overall - MacKinnon is gone, Flames draft Drouin
6th overall - Barkov slips, Flames get him
25th-30th overall - BPA

Flames back the Brinks truck up to Horton's house and fill his pool with cash on July 5th
Flames sign Karri Ramo, Brian McGrattan
Flames sign Cundari, Breen, Bouma, Backlund, Brodie



FORWARDS

1. Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Nathan Horton ($6.000m)
2. Jonathan Drouin ($3.775m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Jiri Hudler ($4.000m)
3. Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Aleksander Barkov ($1.750m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
4. Lance Bouma ($0.578m) / Roman Horak ($0.805m) / Tim Jackman ($0.613m)

Extra - Blair Jones ($0.650m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN

1. T.J. Brodie ($2.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
2. Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / James Wisniewski ($5.500m)
3. Christopher Breen ($0.578m) / Mark Cundari ($0.605m)

Extra - Derek Smith ($0.775m)

GOALTENDERS

1. Joey MacDonald ($0.925m)
2. Karri Ramo ($1.750m)

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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $54,747,917
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $10,263,333

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

This one's for PMM:

Trade #1 - Flames trade 2014 1st (Flames), 2013 1st (Blues) to Tampa for 2013 3rd overall
Trade #2 - Flames trade Cammalleri to Colorado for Stastny
Trade #3 - Flames trade Tanguay, Butler to Columbus for Wisniewski
Trade #4 - Flames trade Stajan for a mid-round pick
Trade #5 - Flames trade Sarich for a late round pick

3rd overall - MacKinnon is gone, Flames draft Drouin
6th overall - Barkov slips, Flames get him
25th-30th overall - BPA

Flames back the Brinks truck up to Horton's house and fill his pool with cash on July 5th
Flames sign Karri Ramo, Brian McGrattan
Flames sign Cundari, Breen, Bouma, Backlund, Brodie



FORWARDS

1. Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Nathan Horton ($6.000m)
2. Jonathan Drouin ($3.775m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Jiri Hudler ($4.000m)
3. Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Aleksander Barkov ($1.750m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
4. Lance Bouma ($0.578m) / Roman Horak ($0.805m) / Tim Jackman ($0.613m)

Extra - Blair Jones ($0.650m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN

1. T.J. Brodie ($2.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
2. Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / James Wisniewski ($5.500m)
3. Christopher Breen ($0.578m) / Mark Cundari ($0.605m)

Extra - Derek Smith ($0.775m)

GOALTENDERS

1. Joey MacDonald ($0.925m)
2. Karri Ramo ($1.750m)

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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $54,747,917
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $10,263,333

You won't hear any complaints from me, I like it.

[calgARI]

If Feaster could somehow pull that off, I don't want him fired anymore. Then again, I don't think there's any chance in hell anyone could pull that off much less this guy.

[Hair bleach and Vodka]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

You won't hear any complaints from me, I like it.

I loved his proposals.. if only it were so easy. We can dream, aye?

[PlayfulGenius]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

This one's for PMM:

Trade #1 - Flames trade 2014 1st (Flames), 2013 1st (Blues) to Tampa for 2013 3rd overall
Trade #2 - Flames trade Cammalleri to Colorado for Stastny
Trade #3 - Flames trade Tanguay, Butler to Columbus for Wisniewski
Trade #4 - Flames trade Stajan for a mid-round pick
Trade #5 - Flames trade Sarich for a late round pick

3rd overall - MacKinnon is gone, Flames draft Drouin
6th overall - Barkov slips, Flames get him
25th-30th overall - BPA

Flames back the Brinks truck up to Horton's house and fill his pool with cash on July 5th
Flames sign Karri Ramo, Brian McGrattan
Flames sign Cundari, Breen, Bouma, Backlund, Brodie



FORWARDS

1. Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Nathan Horton ($6.000m)
2. Jonathan Drouin ($3.775m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Jiri Hudler ($4.000m)
3. Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Aleksander Barkov ($1.750m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
4. Lance Bouma ($0.578m) / Roman Horak ($0.805m) / Tim Jackman ($0.613m)

Extra - Blair Jones ($0.650m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN

1. T.J. Brodie ($2.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
2. Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / James Wisniewski ($5.500m)
3. Christopher Breen ($0.578m) / Mark Cundari ($0.605m)

Extra - Derek Smith ($0.775m)

GOALTENDERS

1. Joey MacDonald ($0.925m)
2. Karri Ramo ($1.750m)

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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $54,747,917
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $10,263,333

Roof-Daddy for GM!!!!!!!!

[Miniac]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Roof-Daddy for GM!!!!!!!!

I second that! I loved the proposal!

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

This one's for PMM:

Trade #1 - Flames trade 2014 1st (Flames), 2013 1st (Blues) to Tampa for 2013 3rd overall
Trade #2 - Flames trade Cammalleri to Colorado for Stastny
Trade #3 - Flames trade Tanguay, Butler to Columbus for Wisniewski
Trade #4 - Flames trade Stajan for a mid-round pick
Trade #5 - Flames trade Sarich for a late round pick

3rd overall - MacKinnon is gone, Flames draft Drouin
6th overall - Barkov slips, Flames get him
25th-30th overall - BPA

Flames back the Brinks truck up to Horton's house and fill his pool with cash on July 5th
Flames sign Karri Ramo, Brian McGrattan
Flames sign Cundari, Breen, Bouma, Backlund, Brodie



FORWARDS

1. Sven Baertschi ($1.425m) / Paul Stastny ($6.600m) / Nathan Horton ($6.000m)
2. Jonathan Drouin ($3.775m) / Mikael Backlund ($1.500m) / Jiri Hudler ($4.000m)
3. Curtis Glencross ($2.550m) / Aleksander Barkov ($1.750m) / Lee Stempniak ($2.500m)
4. Lance Bouma ($0.578m) / Roman Horak ($0.805m) / Tim Jackman ($0.613m)

Extra - Blair Jones ($0.650m) / Brian McGrattan ($0.600m)

DEFENSEMEN

1. T.J. Brodie ($2.000m) / Dennis Wideman ($5.250m)
2. Mark Giordano ($4.020m) / James Wisniewski ($5.500m)
3. Christopher Breen ($0.578m) / Mark Cundari ($0.605m)

Extra - Derek Smith ($0.775m)

GOALTENDERS

1. Joey MacDonald ($0.925m)
2. Karri Ramo ($1.750m)

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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000
CAP PAYROLL: $54,747,917
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $10,263,333

If Ramo or Joey play well enough next year that is a playoff team. I love it!

[BigRed]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

Roof-Daddy for GM!!!!!!!!

Yep, and whatever he has to slip in Yzerman's drink to get him to agree to it -- I'll have me some of that, too ...