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			Kind of silly to nominate two others. Might as well just give it to Suter now.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 09:08 AM
			
			
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			05-07-2013, 09:12 AM
			
			
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			but...but...but...Suter was paired with Brodin all year... 
 
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Suter SHOULD win this but who the hell knows how voting works now.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-07-2013, 09:13 AM
			
			
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			yup Subban has to win this.  He was a beast during the season and a PP machine.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 09:22 AM
			
			
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			Subban still too much of a mouthpiece to deserve it IMO.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 09:22 AM
			
			
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			guess the writers were not watching the flames this year......award should go to Butler - subban should be the bridesmaid
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			05-07-2013, 09:29 AM
			
			
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			Suter had almost as many points as Subban, while playing almost 4 minutes more a game, against much tougher competition. Not even close IMO.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			05-07-2013, 09:45 AM
			
			
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			I like Doughty and Peitroangelo.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 09:47 AM
			
			
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				Suter had almost as many points as Subban, while playing almost 4 minutes more a game, against much tougher competition. Not even close IMO. 
			
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Subban had 7 more goals in 6 fewer games.  A better +/-, a lot more hits, more PPP.  Suter takes blocked shots and TOI.  I suppose not being on as "good" of a team plays into it as well.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 09:56 AM
			
			
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			Subban really took strides this year.  He has become a smarter player and a better team player, but I don't think he is quite there yet. 
  
I do think he will get there though.   
  
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			05-07-2013, 09:58 AM
			
			
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			I'd take Keith or Chara on my team before any of these nominees.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 10:08 AM
			
			
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				Subban still too much of a mouthpiece to deserve it IMO. 
			
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Not sure what that has to do with his ability as a denfenceman. Subban is elite and deserving of this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 10:12 AM
			
			
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			This depends if they want to award the best defenceman (Suter) or the best offensive defenceman (Subban). 
I would pick Suter, personally, but Subban does have the East coast factor, as well as putting up a lot of points, so I could see him winning on that basis
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 10:15 AM
			
			
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			05-07-2013, 10:24 AM
			
			
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			I remember a discussion on CP and a lot of posters would not want Subban on the flames. I still shake my head at those posters. 
 
Tough to pick a winner out of that group, they are all great. I will go with Letang.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 10:30 AM
			
			
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				This depends if they want to award the best defenceman (Suter) or the best offensive defenceman (Subban). 
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			05-07-2013, 10:36 AM
			
			
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			I think Suter takes this.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 10:37 AM
			
			
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			Subban deserves it and next season it will be Brodie   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-07-2013, 10:54 AM
			
			
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				Suter had almost as many points as Subban, while playing almost 4 minutes more a game, against much tougher competition. Not even close IMO. 
			
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