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		|  04-18-2013, 01:32 PM | #201 |  
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					Originally Posted by Resolute 14  Interesting that you chose to dodge the question (which is sadly typical of Redford's unwavering defenders here): how many lies and broken promises are you willing to ignore before you actually look at Redford's performance rather than continue to try and deflect, deflect, deflect?  Two promises broken here, and they are merely the latest on an ever-growing pile.
 Head on question: Do you think Redford made the right call reneging on these two promises, cutting education funding and causing programs, such as nursing, to get cut?  More importantly, can you even answer the question without trying to deflect the answer toward something that is not Redford and the government?
 
 If you aren't going to call out all partisan potshots, then spare me the sanctimonious commentary.
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Personally I don't think it was the right call.  But not I'm a blind ideologue like the frothing at the mouth Wildrosers.
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		|  04-18-2013, 01:35 PM | #202 |  
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					Originally Posted by transplant99  Thats just too rich.
 
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					Originally Posted by transplant99  You are just sad. |  
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		|  04-18-2013, 01:43 PM | #203 |  
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					Originally Posted by longsuffering  Personally I don't think it was the right call.  But not I'm a blind ideologue like the frothing at the mouth Wildrosers. |  
We are all still waiting for you to make a contribution to this thread other than name calling and smearing.  Care to participate, oh non-frothy one?
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		|  04-18-2013, 01:47 PM | #204 |  
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  Yeah France's immigrant population is certainly filled with satisfied customers. |  
Really? They must be leaving in droves with the terrible health care then?
 
First you claimed Wildrose had no policies.  Then you've backtracked to try and cover your own theories that are based on nothing but imagination.
 
Clearly you have no substantive argument to make.
 
Are you really that pleased with the Redford government?
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		|  04-18-2013, 01:48 PM | #205 |  
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					Originally Posted by crazy_eoj  Really? They must be leaving in droves with the terrible health care then?
 First you claimed Wildrose had no policies.  Then you've backtracked to try and cover your own theories that are based on nothing but imagination.
 
 Clearly you have no substantive argument to make.
 
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I gave you concrete example of something that Redford has done that I like.  Care to comment on that?
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		|  04-18-2013, 01:51 PM | #206 |  
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					Originally Posted by Slava  I gave you concrete example of something that Redford has done that I like.  Care to comment on that? |  
While I'm glad you contribute something of actual value in the thread, I'm not sure if you asked me to comment on your opinion before. 
 
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		|  04-18-2013, 01:56 PM | #207 |  
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					Originally Posted by crazy_eoj  Really? They must be leaving in droves with the terrible health care then? |  
That's quite the affirmative conclusion from a negative premise.
 
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Not really, but I'm willing to consider it a better option than the off-chance that the WRP gets to practice their ideology unfettered.
		 
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		|  04-18-2013, 02:14 PM | #208 |  
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					Originally Posted by crazy_eoj  While I'm glad you contribute something of actual value in the thread, I'm not sure if you asked me to comment on your opinion before. 
 Care to rehash it?
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I was just saying that I thought that the cancer clinic funding announcement is something that I think is awesome for the province.
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		|  04-18-2013, 02:46 PM | #209 |  
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					Originally Posted by RubberDuck  That I can agree with, but why it is sad is that I could have written the predictable responses from Slava, Makarov, SebC and Senator Clay myself. Nothing new here. |  
The only sad thing is your post. Why not contribute to the discussion going on and stick your drive by comments where the sun don't shine.
		 
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		|  04-18-2013, 02:57 PM | #210 |  
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					Originally Posted by PsYcNeT  Yeah quit having opinions that differ from his you pathetic loser. |  
Classic.
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		|  04-18-2013, 02:59 PM | #211 |  
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					Originally Posted by Slava  I was just saying that I thought that the cancer clinic funding announcement is something that I think is awesome for the province. |  
Certainly not the worst thing she's done.  However it looks like another in a long line of promises that Redford won't be able to keep, they've already spent far too much.
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					Originally Posted by transplant99  Classic. |  
Guess that makes you New Coke.    
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		| Redford commented on her family’s travel practices after she was asked by Wildrose Leader Danielle Smith how she covers the costs of family members who might accompany her on out-of-province trips. 
 “We have rules where if my family travels with me, I pay those expenses even though I believe that since the time I became leader of the party and premier of the province there were rules in place that would have allowed my family to travel with me,” Redford said Monday night, speaking to the MLA committee reviewing the proposed 2013-14 budget of the executive council, which includes the premier’s office.
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		|  04-18-2013, 04:00 PM | #214 |  
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					Originally Posted by crazy_eoj  Certainly not the worst thing she's done.  However it looks like another in a long line of promises that Redford won't be able to keep, they've already spent far too much. |  
Good lord! You won't even agree that funding for a cancer clinic is something good that she's done? I suppose that just confirms the inanity of the thread.  That doesn't strike me as a very partisan issue...
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		|  04-18-2013, 04:25 PM | #215 |  
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					Originally Posted by Slava  Good lord! You won't even agree that funding for a cancer clinic is something good that she's done? I suppose that just confirms the inanity of the thread.  That doesn't strike me as a very partisan issue... |  
What good is announcing funding when they can't afford it?  When they actually budget and build this clinic it would be great, but is this the same as when they announced funding for post-secondary institutions and then promptly cut their funding?
 
How can you tell this is a promise they mean to keep vs one of the ones they mean to break?
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		|  04-19-2013, 01:21 AM | #216 |  
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					Originally Posted by crazy_eoj  We are all still waiting for you to make a contribution to this thread other than name calling and smearing. Care to participate, oh non-frothy one? |  
There is no point attempting to have a discussion with you.  It's clear that you treat politics as a team sport.  You're going to support your team, right or wrong and 'cheer' against the other team no matter what.  The WRP are the Flames and the PC Party are the Canucks and/or Oilers.
  
Others choose to take a more nuanced view.  Context matters, circumstance matters, and we can even disagree with individual policies or decisions while continuing to support the party that best reflects our values.
  
You're here to bash all things Redford and all things PC.  Good for you.  Just don't try to call that a contribution.
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		|  04-19-2013, 01:50 AM | #217 |  
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					Originally Posted by longsuffering  There is no point attempting to have a discussion with you. It's clear that you treat politics as a team sport. You're going to support your team, right or wrong and 'cheer' against the other team no matter what. The WRP are the Flames and the PC Party are the Canucks and/or Oilers.
 Others choose to take a more nuanced view. Context matters, circumstance matters, and we can even disagree with individual policies or decisions while continuing to support the party that best reflects our values.
 
 You're here to bash all things Redford and all things PC. Good for you. Just don't try to call that a contribution.
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Pot calling the kettle black. You come here to bash posters for their views including mine. Why focus on a select few when you have others. Sorry but that's not a contribution    
If you were looking for discussion you should knock off the drive bys and do like Slava and Makarov do - offer a rebuttle to what others say. Just do it    
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		|  04-19-2013, 02:13 AM | #218 |  
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					Originally Posted by Dion  Pot calling the kettle black. You come here to bash posters for their views including mine. Why focus on a select few when you have others. Sorry but that's not a contribution    
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Point taken Dion.  I let the tone of the discussion get the better of me yesterday.  I'm working on it.  The 'frothing' comment was not a contribution.
  
It would be nice if all sides of the discussion policed themselves a bit better and exercised more self-control.  Slava and Makarov are good role models.
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					Originally Posted by longsuffering  Point taken Dion.  I let the tone of the discussion get the better of me yesterday.  I'm working on it.  The 'frothing' comment was not a contribution.
 It would be nice if all sides of the discussion policed themselves a bit better and exercised more self-control.  Slava and Makarov are good role models.
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				  Personally I don't think it was the right call. But not I'm a blind ideologue like the frothing at the mouth Wildrosers. |  
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