Dreger: Kiprusoff to not move, retire at end of the season

[Ned Braden]

Originally Posted by Bmuzyka

Totally hurts the Flames. I think that this sets a dangerous precedent for players to "give themselves a NTC". Whats stopping other players from making this same threat? Total BS.

The fact that most want to keep playing and everyone knows it?

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Bmuzyka

Totally hurts the Flames. I think that this sets a dangerous precedent for players to "give themselves a NTC". Whats stopping other players from making this same threat? Total BS.

Hopefully there aren't as many other players who rival Kiprusoff for being the biggest scumbag in the history of mankind.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Ummm....no actually.

It was inferred that he turned down an extension from the Leafs...but carry on with the sabre rattling.

Whatever. Why is he still playing? The team certainly doesn't need him. Retire already, but I guess he wants the rest of his cash. Enough with the sainthood theory.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Whatever. Why is he still playing? The team certainly doesn't need him. Retire already, but I guess he wants the rest of his cash. Enough with the sainthood theory.

All of the one pay cheque that is left.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Whatever. Why is he still playing? The team certainly doesn't need him. Retire already, but I guess he wants the rest of his cash. Enough with the sainthood theory.

Holy crap...yes what a bad guy for wanting to play in calgary...they should lynch him.

hell he may still play here next season for all we know...or elsewhere...all that was decided is that he wouldnt move today.

Sainthood?

The hyperbole in this place has become unbearable.

[OzSome]

When Kipper signed that contract, everybody knows he will retire before that last season of contract kicks in. I have no idea why people gets so upset at the guy. Besides Dreger is just assuming Kipper will retire after this season. I don't think Kipper ever mention it. The guy gave us some spectacular years here and good for him to retire as a Flame.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Kipper can do no wrong, but if he is all about family, should have retired right after the birth if there were issues. But... say what? He still wants the $1.5M (or whatever) is owed to him for the rest of the season, even though he is not actually showing up? Interesting. He has no NMC, but won't report because "he wants to be a Flame". Awesome... but... say what? Oh, he'd report if the other team threw another 2 years and $10M his way? Interesting.
Family first my behind. Well, except in the sense that more dineros help the family...

And you know this HOW? Pure speculation on your part. If he really wants to make more money, he would agree with Toronto's offer in extending his contract. That's because the Flames did not get something in return for Kipper's impending retirement, he is a bad guy to some people. Wow, just wow!

[jayswin]

Haha, what the hell's going on with vladtheimpaler? He's going off the deep end with his hate for kipper. Really odd.

[trublmaker]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Whatever. Why is he still playing? The team certainly doesn't need him. Retire already, but I guess he wants the rest of his cash. Enough with the sainthood theory.

seriously if you want to hate on him go ahead but don't make s4!t up just to justify your hate.

[calgarybean]

I'm fine with it...like others thought there was class shown by The Flames today.
If we are looking to sign NCAA or the picks we need to move forward with; acts like today will help go a long way.

Du Hast.

[calumniate]

Not that it's worth much, but props to Feaster for not throwing Iggy, Kipper and Bouw under a bus.

Hopefully this good karma comes back to the Flames. I think it will.. but I'm a bit tired that Feaster's had to be the nice guy!

[Otto29]

I can't understand some posters on these forums. I think people need to understand that hockey players have families and lives and that they are not trading cards ment to be passed around....Flames management understands that. Good on Kipper for putting family first, good on Kipper for showing loyalty to the first NHL team to really give him the chance. Good on Feaster for treating Kipper exactly how he deserved to be treated....with respect and loyalty in return.

[Phanuthier]

I tend to agree with t99, et al ... WRT to Kiprusoff and Iginla, we aren't maximizing return, but these 2 guys have done so much for this organization, I am ok with them respecting their wishes for how they want to see their career's end.

[renny]

I give major props to the Flames today. They could have traded Kipper since he didn't have an NTC. The Flames decided to handle Kipper with a TON of class by respecting his wishes of staying in Calgary instead of dishing him out for a pick of some sort. I can say that moves like this buy a lot of goodwill in my eyes.

When choosing an employer, I always make sure that I'm working for a firm that treats their employees well. I do hope that NHL players feel the same way, hopefully this will buy the Flames some goodwill in terms of signing future prospects or UFAs.

[Jbo]

I would okay if he signed a contract extension for 2-3 years to stay in Calgary. Guy is still young and with a better team in front of him can win games.

[Ozy_Flame]

Unlike other posters in this thread, I completely understand why some are frustrated with the situation, and I harbour no resentment to those who think Kipper was unfair to the Flames organization. It's been a sensitive past seven days with the way other players have departed the team, and I can applaud fans who value the collective over the individual. I can also see why Kipper was allowed to call his own shots - he owes nothing more to the organization after 10 years of unabashed and exemplary service.

I think we need to realize that a discussion board is allowed to have differences of opinion, regardless of how much you may disagree with others. If we all agreed on everything around here, it would just be one big Flames-centric circle jerk.

[CSharp]

It's like what's up with ppl wanting to trade sentimental values for hope? It's like the Flames basically trade Iggy for nothing. The only real excitement here is that he has a high chance for his first Cup that was stolen from him years ago. And still, some of you are like pissing on him. Then, there's Kipper, who basically stood on his head through all these years and you want him traded to the frickin Leafs and get jerked off again? And some of you are OK with Comeau-ver, GlenX, Tanguay, and Camellari still in the lineup? Cripes sakes!

Kipper and Iggy retiring in a Flames uniform would be an honor, but to trade them for nothing is a disgrace! I really don't understand the value of trading out aging valued veterans for prospects that may amount to nothing. I'd rather keep the veterans that aren't the issues and have them around to teach the young ones coming in.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Kipper can do no wrong, but if he is all about family, should have retired right after the birth if there were issues. But... say what? He still wants the $1.5M (or whatever) is owed to him for the rest of the season, even though he is not actually showing up? Interesting. He has no NMC, but won't report because "he wants to be a Flame". Awesome... but... say what? Oh, he'd report if the other team threw another 2 years and $10M his way? Interesting.
Family first my behind. Well, except in the sense that more dineros help the family...

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Whatever. Why is he still playing? The team certainly doesn't need him. Retire already, but I guess he wants the rest of his cash. Enough with the sainthood theory.

I'm not entirely sure why, but for some reason these posts make me conjure up an image of a freshly-scented bag of water with a plastic applicator...

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Kipper can do no wrong, but if he is all about family, should have retired right after the birth if there were issues. But... say what? He still wants the $1.5M (or whatever) is owed to him for the rest of the season, even though he is not actually showing up? Interesting. He has no NMC, but won't report because "he wants to be a Flame". Awesome... but... say what? Oh, he'd report if the other team threw another 2 years and $10M his way? Interesting.
Family first my behind. Well, except in the sense that more dineros help the family...

Sorry to pick on you Vlad..

These are exactly the types of comments that I think a lot of people have issue with - the part I bolded above. I have seen it in a few comments already since the story leaked about "Kipper refusing" and "Kipper retiring".

What makes people think he 'isn't showing up'? Did he not have a bad run not too long ago where he got the bronx cheer? Was he 'not showing up' then either?

I think that sometimes people forget that hockey players are human too. That things affect them in life, just as they do us. It doesn't matter how much you are making - you just don't turn into a robot just because you are paid a certain dollar figure. It is obvious that there is something not right about Kipper - there are extenuating circumstances, and he is obviously rattled.

To call him out and say: "He isn't showing up" - how many of you are 100% productive at your jobs all the time? Error free? Even when you go through a tough period of time in your life that no matter how much you try and focus, it just becomes impossible to perform your job the way you usually do. Now think about having a job where you have to try and stop pucks shot by the best players in the world, at all different kinds of angles, behind a team that is playing defence like hot garbage, and you start to doubt yourself... Is that 'not showing up', or is this more than likely 'going through a bad time' or even 'rattled at the moment'?

Also, after that announcement, it sure sounds like Kipper isn't exactly retiring. The trade came with a contract extension, and that apparently was tempting for Kipper. You can still deal Kipper in the off-season if he gets things under control more, and decides he wants to play another few years.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

Whatever. Why is he still playing? The team certainly doesn't need him. Retire already, but I guess he wants the rest of his cash. Enough with the sainthood theory.

Why go through the trouble of suspending one of the most important players of your franchise for the past decade? What does that do for the Flames? Perhaps letting the guy finish his career on his terms is a positive for the reputation of the organization. I don't want Calgary to look like Edmonton in a few years where we struggle to attract players.