03-18-2013, 09:49 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
He had one of the worst shifts of hockey that i have ever seen. Fell when he pinched and skated back too late to break up the dallas odd man rush but managed to turnover twice in his zone.
Twas a battle between two terrible teams. Neither has any business n a playoff conversation imo.
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Derek Smith looked like an ass out there.
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03-18-2013, 09:51 PM
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#82
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Franchise Player
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Ugh ... as bad as Kerr is, at least he's not Dave Mishkin
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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03-18-2013, 09:52 PM
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#83
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Smith was not good tonight.
Oh, and on the 4th goal, several people were lamenting Gio's play but Gio covered the first guy - unfortunately there was another guy uncovered because the 2 forwards that were back had already turned away from teh play. I don't think you can blame Gio when he is left to cover 2 guys
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03-18-2013, 09:52 PM
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#84
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The Flames team defence is very bad. How many games have they won this season scoring 2 or 3 goals?
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03-18-2013, 09:54 PM
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#85
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Exactly what does Hartley think he is going to get from Cervenka when he plays him on the 4th line?
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03-18-2013, 09:54 PM
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#86
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is it just me or do the linesman jump in super quick when iginla fights. Sure they would still be picking up pieces of eakin, but he kind of deserves it.
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03-18-2013, 09:55 PM
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#87
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Exactly what does Hartley think he is going to get from Cervenka when he plays him on the 4th line?
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I don't think Hartley sees anything in Roman.
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03-18-2013, 09:57 PM
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#88
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Exactly what does Hartley think he is going to get from Cervenka when he plays him on the 4th line?
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I don't think it would matter were they put Cervenka tonight. Flames biggest problem tonight, as in most nights, is the forwards not helping back in their own zone. Cervenka is by far the worst on this team for defensive play.
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03-18-2013, 09:58 PM
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#89
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NOT breaking news
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Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
I don't think it would matter were they put Cervenka tonight. Flames biggest problem tonight, as in most nights, is the forwards not helping back in their own zone. Cervenka is by far the worst on this team for defensive play.
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Yeah. I think we can conclude that Cervenka is a colossal failure or at best not a player the Flames thought they were getting.
Very bad scouting of the KHL.
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03-18-2013, 09:58 PM
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#90
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by timbit
The Flames team defence is very bad. How many games have they won this season scoring 2 or 3 goals?
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Zero
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03-18-2013, 10:01 PM
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#91
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Originally Posted by timbit
The Flames team defence is very bad. How many games have they won this season scoring 2 or 3 goals?
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Originally Posted by EddyBeers
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Actually one - they beat the Wild 3-1
But I think the FAN (was it Maher) reported that they hadn't won a game without scoring at least 4 goals
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03-18-2013, 10:02 PM
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#92
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Up Tempo Hockey. Only wins games when scoring four goals. Okay now I understand.
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03-18-2013, 10:03 PM
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#93
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertuzzied
Derek Smith looked like an ass out there.
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We need more Brodies
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03-18-2013, 10:04 PM
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#94
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Grew up in Calgary now living in USA
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Smith was not good tonight.
Oh, and on the 4th goal, several people were lamenting Gio's play but Gio covered the first guy - unfortunately there was another guy uncovered because the 2 forwards that were back had already turned away from teh play. I don't think you can blame Gio when he is left to cover 2 guys
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Yeah Stajan should have taken the guy with the puck out of commission.
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03-18-2013, 10:06 PM
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#95
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by EddyBeers
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Game in game out...just awful commitment to defence. Forwards track back with little urgency, almost always go for a circle instead of stopping at the "house", rarely block a shot, do not pay the price on the boards to get puck out.
All those "little things" are about commitment and mental toughness.
Yes, the D and goalies have struggled as well, but the commitment and focus of most of the forwards is certainly not good enough when the other team has the puck or it is up for grabs.
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03-18-2013, 10:06 PM
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#96
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Location: Maple Ridge, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Actually one - they beat the Wild 3-1
But I think the FAN (was it Maher) reported that they hadn't won a game without scoring at least 4 goals
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5 of their wins in game where opponent scored two or less.
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03-18-2013, 10:08 PM
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#97
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Game in game out...just awful commitment to defence. Forwards track back with little urgency, almost always go for a circle instead of stopping at the "house", rarely block a shot, do not pay the price on the boards to get puck out.
All those "little things" are about commitment and mental toughness.
Yes, the D and goalies have struggled as well, but the commitment and focus of most of the forwards is certainly not good enough when the other team has the puck or it is up for grabs.
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But its what the boys wanted after suffering through Sutters dreary defensive coaching last year. they got what they wanted and aren't doing squat with it. I mean the offensive up tempo hockey that Hartley teaches.
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03-18-2013, 10:10 PM
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#98
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
Game in game out...just awful commitment to defence. Forwards track back with little urgency, almost always go for a circle instead of stopping at the "house", rarely block a shot, do not pay the price on the boards to get puck out.
All those "little things" are about commitment and mental toughness.
Yes, the D and goalies have struggled as well, but the commitment and focus of most of the forwards is certainly not good enough when the other team has the puck or it is up for grabs.
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Fully agree. Not to take anything away from Matt Stajan becuase he has been great, but when he is your best forward commitment wise on both ends of the ice, your in trouble.
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03-18-2013, 10:11 PM
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#99
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Backup Goalie
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Location: Calgary, AB
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So the flames didn't get it done when it mattered..... I'm in shock.
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03-18-2013, 10:13 PM
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#100
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
But its what the boys wanted after suffering through Sutters dreary defensive coaching last year. they got what they wanted and aren't doing squat with it.
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There is a balance. It is good that 5 are involved on the attack. It is good the they are trying to support the puck better and have more players active in the offensive zone. Still need to shoot the puck more and make better decisions at both blue lines.
It is bad that they don't have 5 committed to defence when they lose the puck.
They are paying for it in the standings.
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