03-01-2013, 03:07 PM
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#41
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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I would like to see King moved up to President of Flames Sports Group or whatever it is called and oversee all the big issues with the teams the Flames now own and bring in a hockey guy as President of the Flames.
Whether this is a President/GM like Burke or a President that hires a GM like Davidson i don't care but I do want someone with a hockey backgroud in that role. Let King run all the big item things like the new stadium, maybe Sportsnet TV deals, etc. but the President runs the day to day operations and is the final say on all hockey matters.
Bob Nicholson would be ideal for this in my view but with him taking over IIHF I doubt he takes it.
I think King can still be valuable in the business aspects of the organization and especially the big picture stuff that might be a bit beyond a hockey's guys expertise but I am too worried about his opinions on the hockey direction to want him to be as close as he is to the decision making process.
As for Feaster obviously fine with him going and would prefer an extensive search for his replacement if fired. If they want Goulet or Weisbrod to step in for rest of season to maximize candidates availability so be it but just promoting a guy with no real search would be awful.
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03-01-2013, 03:08 PM
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#42
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cool Ville
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Is he fired yet?
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03-01-2013, 03:09 PM
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#43
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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They should have very aggressively pursued Davidson. I can tell you right now he wouldn't have allowed this circus to continue the way it has.
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03-01-2013, 03:09 PM
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#44
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Lifetime Suspension
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I've been reading forums for a long, long time but hardly ever post.
Erick Estrada - I have no clue why you are spending so much time, effort, an energy voicing an opinion which no one in Flames management even cares for.
In fact, Flames management doesn't care for any of our opinions. it's sad that we ridicule each other in order to try to "win" an argument which holds no value in reality.
I don't think Murray Edwards cares what any of us think because he owns the team, and can do whatever he wants.
If you really want to make an impact and have an opinion that matters then put efforts towards affecting the wallet of the business Then...the management will listen to the opinion of fans.
At the end of the day....who the hell are fans ?? just peasants who pay the bills in the eyes of Flames ownership.
Our opinion is meaningless and arguing and bashing each other on the Internet is a waste of time. go do something productive.
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03-01-2013, 03:11 PM
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#45
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cool Ville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robaur
i've been reading forums for a long, long time but hardly ever post.
Erick estrada - i have no clue why you are spending so much time, effort, an energy voicing an opinion which no one in flames management even cares for.
In fact, flames management doesn't care for any of our opinions. It's sad that we ridicule each other in order to try to "win" an argument which holds no value in reality.
I don't think murray edwards cares what any of us think because he owns the team, and can do whatever he wants.
If you really want to make an impact and have an opinion that matters then put efforts towards affecting the wallet of the business then...the management will listen to the opinion of fans.
At the end of the day....who the hell are fans ?? Just peasants who pay the bills in the eyes of flames ownership.
Our opinion is meaningless and arguing and bashing each other on the internet is a waste of time. Go do something productive.
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03-01-2013, 03:13 PM
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#46
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barca
Wait, so this move was planned by Feaster to screw up another teams salary structure??
So if the Avs hadn't matched, then the Flames would have an overrated 6.5m player?\
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Well isn't that part of the equation with RFA's? You offer them so much that the team that holds the rights has to consider their salary structure and cap. Hopefully you offer them so much that they don't match because they won't play the player that much - but if they do you know you've screwed them over.
Which is what has happened right? At the end of the day? Now COL has to overpay ROR?
And yes, if the Flames had got ROR they would definitely not got a player worth 6.5.
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03-01-2013, 03:13 PM
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#47
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Is it Feaster's fault that ownership wants to keep winning now?
it almost seems like he's a lame duck GM...
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03-01-2013, 03:14 PM
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#48
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robaur
I've been reading forums for a long, long time but hardly ever post.
Erick Estrada - I have no clue why you are spending so much time, effort, an energy voicing an opinion which no one in Flames management even cares for.
In fact, Flames management doesn't care for any of our opinions. it's sad that we ridicule each other in order to try to "win" an argument which holds no value in reality.
I don't think Murray Edwards cares what any of us think because he owns the team, and can do whatever he wants.
If you really want to make an impact and have an opinion that matters then put efforts towards affecting the wallet of the business Then...the management will listen to the opinion of fans.
At the end of the day....who the hell are fans ?? just peasants who pay the bills in the eyes of Flames ownership.
Our opinion is meaningless and arguing and bashing each other on the Internet is a waste of time. go do something productive.
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You want people who post on messageboards to stop and go do something productive. Yeah right!
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03-01-2013, 03:16 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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As someone who has supported Feaster until this point, I wonder how he even feels about staying on? Everything he does now is going to be under the microscope more than ever. Every GM who comes at him with an offer is going to thinking of him as a lesser.
90% of being a GM is building a reputation and relationships with other GMs and hockey execs. His rep took a huge hit and may never recover.
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03-01-2013, 03:17 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgARI
They should have very aggressively pursued Davidson. I can tell you right now he wouldn't have allowed this circus to continue the way it has.
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Completely agree. The timing was a year off. I think ownership and King wanted (needed?... too strong) to give Feaster one more year.
With the ever growing Flames Corporation - CFL, Lacrosse, etc., a spot for Davidson could have been created - above Feaster answering to King as head of the entire Flames conglomorate - President, Calgary Flames with King being President, Flames Management Group (or whatever the entity is called).
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03-01-2013, 03:18 PM
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#51
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by St. Pats
You want people who post on messageboards to stop and go do something productive. Yeah right!
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Haha. I don't mind if anyone has an opinion but it isn't worth it to try and berate other users to get an opinion heard. an opinion that doesn't even matter. a lot of posters take everything so personally and act like they own the Flames themselves. All I'm saying is stay even keel...it's only a game. who cares if the Flames suck...you might be able to spend that money elsewhere in your life.
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03-01-2013, 03:19 PM
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#52
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by robaur
Haha. I don't mind if anyone has an opinion but it isn't worth it to try and berate other users to get an opinion heard. an opinion that doesn't even matter. a lot of posters take everything so personally and act like they own the Flames themselves. All I'm saying is stay even keel...it's only a game. who cares if the Flames suck...you might be able to spend that money elsewhere in your life.
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It's a messageboard for fans. I don't think you get it. Go back to just reading would be my advice.
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03-01-2013, 03:47 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flash Walken
According to Eric D on the fan radio just now, "Ken King basically runs hockey operations."
Fire Feaster or Fire King?
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Both.
I don't care who's final decision it was. Both are responsible.
And Feaster is King's second guy. King put in Sutter and then replaced him with Feaster, right? Time's up.
There has to be accountability or you are left with a laughing stock.
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03-01-2013, 04:02 PM
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#54
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Franchise Player
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If by any chance they are going to fire Feaster they should do it right now. A new GM is going to need time to evaluate players before trade deadline.
If they are thinking of letting Feaster go after the season, i dont know why they would want him being GM during the trade deadline?
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03-01-2013, 04:10 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sakari
All of this fire Feaster crap could end if he makes a major move soon.
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The only way he doesn't deserve the axe is if he finally does what's needed to be done and burn this thing to the ground. If he moves out Iggy, Bouw, Kipper and Gio at the deadline, he will have shown he understands what the franchise needs.
It's to the point that if this team does not rebuild, it will not be worth spending as much time, effort and money following them as I do.
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03-01-2013, 04:15 PM
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#56
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgARI
They should have very aggressively pursued Davidson. I can tell you right now he wouldn't have allowed this circus to continue the way it has.
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King probably spoke to Edwards
Don't listen to Davidson ... he spreads lies, our team is one minor move from a Cup run.
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03-01-2013, 04:18 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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The team spouts that they need to be responsible for their own play on the ice to the players...ownership should have that same sentiment to the GM.
Unless Jay brought this to Ownerships attention and they pushed him to make the move regardless he should be fired.
You can not make the biggest mistake that I have seen as a GM and just get away with it.
I stood up for Feaster and stated he had not had enough time to turn this team around but this move is just to monumental to look past.
Completely embarrassed to be a Flames fan right now, and Feaster's head needs to be on the chopping block for me to have any faith in this group.
I would actually like to see Feaster and King's heads both roll for a debacle such as this one.
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03-01-2013, 04:22 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
The team spouts that they need to be responsible for their own play on the ice to the players...ownership should have that same sentiment to the GM.
Unless Jay brought this to Ownerships attention and they pushed him to make the move regardless he should be fired.
You can not make the biggest mistake that I have seen as a GM and just get away with it.
I stood up for Feaster and stated he had not had enough time to turn this team around but this move is just to monumental to look past.
Completely embarrassed to be a Flames fan right now, and Feaster's head needs to be on the chopping block for me to have any faith in this group.
I would actually like to see Feaster and King's heads both roll for a debacle such as this one.
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I have been a loyal fan since the days of the Corral and i have never been as emarrassed to be a flames fan as i am now.
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03-01-2013, 04:26 PM
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#59
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
King probably spoke to Edwards
Don't listen to Davidson ... he spreads lies, our team is one minor move from a Cup run.
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Out of thanks, chuckled heartily at the picture.
Good work the last few days.
Laughter is the best medicine.
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03-01-2013, 04:34 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
I have been a loyal fan since the days of the Corral and i have never been as emarrassed to be a flames fan as i am now.
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Funny thing is I agree with Feaster's supposed interpretation and think the NHL is to blame for not clearly defining the difference between "a club" and "the club".
They also go on to state the player is still waiver exempt if a trade occurs, so I am not sure why they did not build the same contingencies for an offer sheet.
I am embarrassed because we just became the laughing stock of the league because no matter what Feaster says after the fact he is just covering his ass.
I am also embarrassed because our GM did not at least clarify this with the NHL and NHLPA before the fact...that makes me thing his cover up is B.S.
Had you actually thought you could do this due to the wording you would likely clarify and not put $2.5 million, a 1st, and a 3rd at risk.
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