I went and saw it a second time this weekend, and may have enjoyed it even more. Before I went back, I watched the fist and second, and then watching the third a second time, I was able to pick up tons of things I missed on the first watch. (Cecil mentioned a few of the points that Bain touches on earlier in the film)
Nolan did such a great job with this trilogy. TDKR easily stands with the other two movies in the Franchise.
As for a few things towards the end that I didn't understand:
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How'd Batman escape The Bat before the bomb exploded? He fixed the auto-pilot despite telling Fox and Selina Kyle that it didn't work. We just have to accept that he bailed out in time.
How did "Robin" find the Batcave, and subsequently, is Batman supposed to be retired at the end?
When Blake reveals himself as "Robin" he is picking up the duffel bag which Bruce Wayne left for him in his will. In it, is has the coordinates to the Batcave.
It's open to interpretation. One could assume he takes on the Batman persona, or Robin, or Nightwing.
What's Talia's role in the comics? She loves Batman and wants him in the League of Shadows.
Why didn't Bane get a proper kill-off? He was just shot back, but didn't really have a definite death. I loved the kill-off. Grounded and non-glorified. The way most people die. It was unexpected and highly plausible I thought.
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one thing I will say about this is that they really really really wrap it up quick. After that bomb detonates you gotta pay attention to the final scenes to answer a few questions...
one thing I will say about this is that they really really really wrap it up quick. After that bomb detonates you gotta pay attention to the final scenes to answer a few questions...
Good. There's no need for it to be another Return of the King.
Just saw it a second time. One thing I noticed this time around was how fast it goes from day to night and night to day in some scenes. I'm pretty sure during the stock market scene when it started it looked like midday but by the time Batman was chasing the guys on the street it looked well into the night. They only needed 8 more minutes for the transaction on the mobile pad to complete.
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Just saw it a second time. One thing I noticed this time around was how fast it goes from day to night and night to day in some scenes. I'm pretty sure during the stock market scene when it started it looked like midday but by the time Batman was chasing the guys on the street it looked well into the night.
Yeah that was hilarious, I noticed that too first go round. I first chalked it up to them being underground... but then they got out and it was pure darkness.
Random Batman/Nolan Movies question... What city is the Gotham based on?
In Batman Begins it seemed to be it's own Gothic very comic book approach to the city design. In The Dark Knight it seemed very Chicago based. In Dark Knight Returns it was obviously New York.
Yeah that was hilarious, I noticed that too first go round. I first chalked it up to them being underground... but then they got out and it was pure darkness.
Random Batman/Nolan Movies question... What city is the Gotham based on?
In Batman Begins it seemed to be it's own Gothic very comic book approach to the city design. In The Dark Knight it seemed very Chicago based. In Dark Knight Returns it was obviously New York.
They wanted to make it ambiguous. It's not supposed to be based on anything really but I've heard people compare Gotham to Jersey and Metropolis to NYC. Metropolis was originally supposed to be Cleveland but that sorta went out the window.
Really, Gotham is just supposed to be a the negative and grimey aspects of a big city so elements of both Chicago and NYC are present.
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you needed the lunch in Rome part for a proper ending for Alfred, having his last scene in the series be weeping at the (false) grade of Bruce Wayne would have been a big downer. also i think actually showing Wayne in Paris was done to confirm that he did settle down with Selina Kyle, and i approve of that scene because of all the woman that Bruce Wayne could have ended up with, he snagged the best one
Good point. The ending didn't really bother me, but I didn't like seeing him with Selina for some reason. I would have preferred if Alfred sat down, noticed something, smiled and then credits. You figured it out at the Fox moment, but the cafe scene seemed like the point was driven home a little too much. I agree though, you have to end it with Alfred.
I loved the movie myself. Despite the paragraph above, I don't actually get hung up on stuff during movies. While probably my least favourite of the trilogy, it was still among my favourite movies of the past few years.
Yeah that was hilarious, I noticed that too first go round. I first chalked it up to them being underground... but then they got out and it was pure darkness.
Random Batman/Nolan Movies question... What city is the Gotham based on?
In Batman Begins it seemed to be it's own Gothic very comic book approach to the city design. In The Dark Knight it seemed very Chicago based. In Dark Knight Returns it was obviously New York.
they have said they want it to appear as 'any city', which is why they switched from filming in Chicago for TDK because they had all ready filmed everywhere in the city they could
1. his knees and shoulders went from completely destroyed to being fine a day later and he's hopping down his stairs, anyone missing all of their cartilage in their knees can not walk and takes a year of full mcl/acl replacement surgery rehab to survive. Bas Rutten's knees are completely destroyed and he can't walk down hills, Batman plays with a little servo thingy for 2 seconds and it's equivalent to a year of intense rehab?
2. when he makes the jump with the rope around him and doesn't make it, that should definitely have killed him, destroyed all his intestines and snapped his spine.
3. those guys paid by Bane to keep him alive wouldn't have helped him escape, Bane's a psycho killer and his cronies (no matter how useless) wouldn't just blatantly do the opposite of what he wanted especially when they are getting paid considering his other minions would willingly die for him at a moments notice.
4. He puts the flare on the ice to light the batfire thing. First of all; that would have taken like a month to set up and been a giant waste of time when he could have just turned on a new bat signal light thing. Second of all; how in the world did he know to put the fuse onto the ice where Gordon would be when they choose death by exile, that whole sequence broke complete immersion.
-sidenote, what exactly did Bane do on wallstreet?
The wall street part was actually laughable. As if they'd let knowingly fraudulent trades stand.
Not only that, what was worse is that they then pretended that it would - in the words of Lucius Fox IIRC - take months to prove that they were fraudulent.
Bane broke into the ####ing stock exchange with machine guns and they need months to prove it? Gimme a break.
1 - you have a guy that owns a company that develops military, and fusion, I don't think it's a stretch to say Wayne Enterprises works with medical technology too. I also don't think it's a stretch they cam up with a device to help you knees that "the bean counters didn't think was worth" the price tag.
2 - No idea, perhaps it did cause some damage, which would mean he'd have to train and recuperate before going again (which he did do).
3 - The whole point was to give Bruce hope he could escape knowing he never could. Everything Bane did went EXACTLY according to plan, except Bruce escaping. He thought it was impossible, so who cares if he had help or not, in fact him having help would destroy him even more as he would have added help.
* - the stock exchange was used to have Bruce gamble on futures and lose so Daggart could force him out & take over Wayne Enterprises.
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