Oslo Bombing *Updated in first post*

[Bane]

Time for the good folks of Norway to resurrect an old custom to deal with nutbars like this...cutting the bloodeagle.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Acey

So they're saying 80 people killed in the shootings... is that still one gunman?!

Up to 400 kids on a small island, they had nowhere to run to, it would have taken the cops a while to respond, take it seriously, get armed, get a boat etc, he had at least half an hour probably an hour plus.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Seriously? Christian Identity, KKK, Army of God, Westboro Baptists, etc. None of those ring a bell?

Except these groups and people are more then likely going to hell because their actions and interpretations of the bible are flawed and lead to evil actions.

Don't throw these idiots in with Christianity, because they're clearly not.

The KKK murdered, thou shalt not kill.
Westboro for using the word of god to promote hate.

Etc.

I think that what you're saying is actually pretty silly and your taking fringe groups and trying to reflect it onto a larger body that doesn't even recognize those fringe perversions.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by Bane

Time for the good folks of Norway to resurrect an old custom to deal with nutbars like this...cutting the bloodeagle.

I used to drink at a pub called the 'spread eagle' it is a relatively comman name for a pub, it refers to a similer type of execution, the pubs were built on the site of the 'event'.

To be honest it beggers belief they didn't just cap the ####### when they had the chance, ditto the greyhound bus wack job a few years ago, there is something to be said for the police just ending things at times.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Except these groups and people are more then likely going to hell because their actions and interpretations of the bible are flawed and lead to evil actions.

Don't throw these idiots in with Christianity, because they're clearly not.

The KKK murdered, thou shalt not kill.
Westboro for using the word of god to promote hate.

Etc.

I think that what you're saying is actually pretty silly and your taking fringe groups and trying to reflect it onto a larger body that doesn't even recognize those fringe perversions.

I would never blame a religeon for its adherents brutal stupidity, that said christians are just as likely to kill for their religeon as Muslims, just about every church, if it has been around long enough, has told its flock its ok to kill. Some have told their flock it is good to kill for jesus.

[Kybosh]

This is just terrible.

[OILFAN #81]

Looking back at things like Columbine and Virginia Tech (I realize they are different because they were school shootings, but this was a camp shooting so similar in that scenario), I am surprised (happy) that only 13 and 32 people died in those tragedies respectively (not saying those are low numbers but saying more so that the damage could have been much worse, especially in Colorado). It's a good thing that in Columbine that Harris and Klebold were too stupid to make good bombs in the cafeteria otherwise they could have killed a lot more (closer to this number of 80). In the Virginia Tech case, Cho killed 32 people but again after locking Norris Hall, the damage could have been much worse. It sucks when stuff like this happens, just seems so surreal. I echo the thoughts in this thread when people said I don't know how someone can get to this point and open fire on kids. Shoot yourself in the head if you get to that point but don't kill innocent people. Disgusting.

[Codes]

Heartbreaking.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think that what you're saying is actually pretty silly and your taking fringe groups and trying to reflect it onto a larger body that doesn't even recognize those fringe perversions.

Those larger bodies promote the choice of faith over reason. Once that choice is made, the difference between harmless and terrorist is simply what fiction you're exposed to.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

Yes the KKK practiced their racism in the name of God. They were in fact a terrorist group. Perhaps you moderate Muslims could learn from us on how to isolate and minimalize groups such as these.

The Army of God I know nothing about. What acts of terrorism have they committed?

The Westboro baptists are not a terrorist group. They claim that God is bringing judgment on America. Free speech allows them to function. I wouldn't want them as nieghbours but, they aren't to be feared.

A bunch of people are dead because of someone's belief in some perverted ideology. How about we relax on arguing about whose ideology is worse than whose? Any ideology can become enough motivation to someone that's susceptible. Let's not try and pretend some beliefs better than others. It's a disgrace to all those people that died for nothing.

[Canuck-Hater]

Just horrible to see, I cant imagine what their families are going though. But my question is how the hell did this guy get a police uniform??

[Jayems]

I think they said he had a police patch on a blue sweater.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by shades

wtf?

[BlackEleven]

Anyone else surprised this guy was taken alive? These mass shootings almost always end in suicide or a fatal shootout with police.

[Delthefunky]

Horrible thing this is. I read on Expressen he was a right wing nutcase that was a nationalist, and someone who has written criticism against Islam. To go and do this just proves that there are nutjobs in every society, ours, America's, Islam, and even Norway.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by Delthefunky

Horrible thing this is. I read on Expressen he was a right wing nutcase that was a nationalist, and someone who has written criticism against Islam. To go and do this just proves that there are nutjobs in every society, ours, America's, Islam, and even Norway.

Was just reading NRK. They say he posted on a website (document.no) where he expressed strong views against immigration, multiculturalism and Islam.

[puckluck]

This article is apparently about him (written in 2001)

Sorry about the rough google translation. Anyone speak Norwegian that can better translate it?

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ir...icle231455.ece

Pay attention to the bold. Chilling.

This is the third time the 23-year-old is in custody since mid juli.Da he was charged with bodily harm by death tilfølge, after a motorist was forced off the road ogomkom.I end of August, he was imprisoned because his meat wildly around him while his girlfriend was present. At that time he was charged with careless medskytevåpen.Denne third time he was arrested avpolitiet in Oslo on Friday 2 November, with two police uniforms ibilen he drove. The police followed up ransakeleiligheten his. There, investigators found two pistols, engasspistol and ten old men with dynamite blasting caps, in all ettkilo sprengstoff.-My client has erkjentstraffskyld for the storage of the weapons and dynamite. Roosters Do not guilt of receiving stolen goods police uniforms, said 23-year-old lawyer, attorney Kathryn Evershos lawyer Øystein Storrvik.23-year-old was in 1998dømt to have purchased a large number of firearms and sold demvidere to people in the right extreme environment påRingerike. Among the weapons he was convicted of having sold, it was both Uzi machine guns, AK47 (Kalasjnikov) assault rifles, a shotgun and a shotgun avsaget. He bleogså convicted of illegally being in possession of a total 16ulike weapons. Among these was a 22kaliber salongriflemed silencer and telescopic sight. Some of his customers are blowing ones accused of planning attack on Norwegian society stops in 1997.I the same criminal case in 1998ble he was also convicted of violence against two anti-racists. 23-åringenvedgikk the time associated with the extreme right miljøetpåRingerike.

[metallicat]

Extremism, regardless of what your skin color is, regardless of your religion, regardless of anything that differentiates us as humans, is horrible. Obviously. Tragedies happen all the time that we don't hear about, but to see that this many innocent kids have died is just unbelievable. I too can't believe he was actually arrested.

[BlackEleven]

Originally Posted by puckluck

This article is apparently about him (written in 2001)

Sorry about the rough google translation. Anyone speak Norwegian that can better translate it?

http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/ir...icle231455.ece

Pay attention to the bold. Chilling.

This is the third time the 23-year-old is in custody since mid juli.Da he was charged with bodily harm by death tilfølge, after a motorist was forced off the road ogomkom.I end of August, he was imprisoned because his meat wildly around him while his girlfriend was present. At that time he was charged with careless medskytevåpen.Denne third time he was arrested avpolitiet in Oslo on Friday 2 November, with two police uniforms ibilen he drove. The police followed up ransakeleiligheten his. There, investigators found two pistols, engasspistol and ten old men with dynamite blasting caps, in all ettkilo sprengstoff.-My client has erkjentstraffskyld for the storage of the weapons and dynamite. Roosters Do not guilt of receiving stolen goods police uniforms, said 23-year-old lawyer, attorney Kathryn Evershos lawyer Øystein Storrvik.23-year-old was in 1998dømt to have purchased a large number of firearms and sold demvidere to people in the right extreme environment påRingerike. Among the weapons he was convicted of having sold, it was both Uzi machine guns, AK47 (Kalasjnikov) assault rifles, a shotgun and a shotgun avsaget. He bleogså convicted of illegally being in possession of a total 16ulike weapons. Among these was a 22kaliber salongriflemed silencer and telescopic sight. Some of his customers are blowing ones accused of planning attack on Norwegian society stops in 1997.I the same criminal case in 1998ble he was also convicted of violence against two anti-racists. 23-åringenvedgikk the time associated with the extreme right miljøetpåRingerike.

I don't particularly want to translate the whole thing, I think you can get the gist of it from google translate but if you want a particular section translated because it's unclear just post it and I'll rewrite it in English.

[puckluck]

Originally Posted by BlackEleven

I don't particularly want to translate the whole thing, I think you can get the gist of it from google translate but if you want a particular section translated because it's unclear just post it and I'll rewrite it in English.

No, thats ok thanks. Just one question. Does the article mention his name anywhere? I just find it hard to believe an article from 10 years ago would still be in their files.