01-26-2011, 05:25 PM
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#161
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by sworkhard
He's conservative fiscally, and the rest of the party will control him socially. I don't think he'll be as bad as you think. In general people aren't as bad (or good) as they are made out to be.
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If the PCs elect Morton to lead them, it will mean the socially conservative side of the party is in control.
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01-26-2011, 05:32 PM
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#162
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Originally Posted by SebC
If the PCs elect Morton to lead them, it will mean the socially conservative side of the party is in control.
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By party do you mean MLAs and cabinet members, or card carrying members?
I'd say its more that if elected, Morton would place socially conservative people in positions of power.
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01-26-2011, 05:35 PM
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#163
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Frequitude
By party do you mean MLAs and cabinet members, or card carrying members?
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Party members... they're the ones who elect the party leader.
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01-26-2011, 09:11 PM
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#164
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby
God helps us all if Morton is the next Premier.
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Agreed. Just where are these financial hawks... errrr.... turkeys going to cut?
Health? We already have outlandish wait times in emergencies, surgical waiting lists & times are unacceptable. Not enough acute care beds, not enough senior care.
Education? Not building new schools? Closing down others? Class sizes are already critical. The turkeys want to make them even larger by cutting teaching positions? Cut funding to school boards?
Cut infrastructure like letting roads & sewers get old & start to crumble? Not fund major cities in this province? Remember when Bronconnier screamed bloody murder about funding to Calgary? Listen to the screams get louder.
Where are they going to cut? If the Tories think people are mad at them now, just wait until they cut more from places like health care & education.
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01-26-2011, 09:49 PM
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#165
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tromboner
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Originally Posted by Golden Jet
Education? Not building new schools? Closing down others? Class sizes are already critical. The turkeys want to make them even larger by cutting teaching positions? Cut funding to school boards?
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Well they could still try an Education Superboard.
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01-26-2011, 09:56 PM
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#166
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by SebC
Well they could still try an Education Superboard. 
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I don't know if you realize, but this isn't so far fetched. The School Act is being opened this year and it will be interesting to see whats done with the boards and education governance in general.
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01-26-2011, 10:45 PM
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#167
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tromboner
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Originally Posted by Slava
I don't know if you realize, but this isn't so far fetched. The School Act is being opened this year and it will be interesting to see whats done with the boards and education governance in general.
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I did not. My intent was just to poke at the healthcare superboard.
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01-26-2011, 11:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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I just discovered the Herald was none too kind in their photo selection today.
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01-26-2011, 11:35 PM
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#169
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Originally Posted by Golden Jet
Agreed. Just where are these financial hawks... errrr.... turkeys going to cut?
Health? We already have outlandish wait times in emergencies, surgical waiting lists & times are unacceptable. Not enough acute care beds, not enough senior care.
Education? Not building new schools? Closing down others? Class sizes are already critical. The turkeys want to make them even larger by cutting teaching positions? Cut funding to school boards?
Cut infrastructure like letting roads & sewers get old & start to crumble? Not fund major cities in this province? Remember when Bronconnier screamed bloody murder about funding to Calgary? Listen to the screams get louder.
Where are they going to cut? If the Tories think people are mad at them now, just wait until they cut more from places like health care & education.
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So you'd run a bigger deficit, eh?
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01-27-2011, 12:25 AM
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#170
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Frequitude
So you'd run a bigger deficit, eh?
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So, okay... where would you cut? Give me an example of healthcare. I'd love to hear your take.
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01-27-2011, 12:31 AM
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#171
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Bring back Ralph.
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01-27-2011, 01:02 AM
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#172
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Originally Posted by SebC
Well they could still try an Education Superboard. 
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I may just break down and cry.
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01-27-2011, 01:59 AM
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#173
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Originally Posted by Golden Jet
So, okay... where would you cut? Give me an example of healthcare. I'd love to hear your take. 
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No clue, not the finance minister. Not what was asked though.
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01-27-2011, 02:00 AM
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#174
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by REDVAN
Bring back Ralph.
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Yes please.
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01-27-2011, 06:16 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
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Originally Posted by Fozzie_DeBear
I think the invisible hand of the market guided by socially responsible labour laws are much better than unions...unions have a self serving interest that seem to be at odds with productivity.
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I've worked one union job before and that was enough for me. I remember busting my ass trying to keep up with production and asking the other person assigned to the line I was working to help.
"I don't need to. I'm in the union. You have to work harder because you're still in the labour pool still and not part of the union yet".
I walked off and will try and avoid future union jobs if possible, regardless if the one experience makes me somewhat ignorant towards the positives unions do.
I'm thankful every day I get rewarded based on merit and not how long I've been around at a company.
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01-27-2011, 08:34 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Golden Jet
So, okay... where would you cut?
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A good start would be scraping the carbon capture program.
Then we need to take a closer look at the money being pumped into projects.
For example: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/kick+...514/story.html
Ironic it's in Stelmach's constituency.
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Give me an example of healthcare. I'd love to hear your take.
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It's not always about cuts. We have thrown increasing amounts of money into healthcare, yet conditions get worse. We need to take a serious look at "how" we are doing things.
Some videos that shed light on this: http://wildrosealliance.ca/policy/health-care/
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01-27-2011, 08:44 AM
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#177
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Originally Posted by Deegee
I walked off and will try and avoid future union jobs if possible, regardless if the one experience makes me somewhat ignorant towards the positives unions do.
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As an outsider, positives supplied by unions often seem to directly and purposefully screw (often with enthusiasm and self-righteousness) the very people that employ their members or the end customers of their product/service.
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01-27-2011, 10:46 AM
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Had an idea!
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The carbon capture program sounds interesting, but the private side should be investing most of the money. I have no problem with giving some serious tax incentive to those that do, but no way us taxpayers should be paying billions for it.
There are a lot of different ways of tackling the health care problem that don't include spending more money or making serious cuts.
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01-27-2011, 11:39 AM
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#179
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Originally Posted by Azure
The carbon capture program sounds interesting, but the private side should be investing most of the money. I have no problem with giving some serious tax incentive to those that do, but no way us taxpayers should be paying billions for it.
There are a lot of different ways of tackling the health care problem that don't include spending more money or making serious cuts.
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Whats the difference?
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01-27-2011, 11:56 AM
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#180
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by First Lady
I just discovered the Herald was none too kind in their photo selection today.

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Geez that's horrible... is he smiling or crying in this picture?
I notice most papers aren't very good with picture selection as of late.
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