12-19-2010, 02:11 PM
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#101
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I'm an evolution, old-Earth believing Christian because creation by God is the only possibility for the existence of this universe that makes sense to me. However, I have to say that when I hear Christians say that the reason for their belief is, "I just believe. I just have my faith," with no critical thought given, it's just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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to me both versions sounds the same
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12-19-2010, 02:13 PM
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#102
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I'm an evolution, old-Earth believing Christian because creation by God is the only possibility for the existence of this universe that makes sense to me. However, I have to say that when I hear Christians say that the reason for their belief is, "I just believe. I just have my faith," with no critical thought given, it's just about the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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So in saying that...you are obviously an educated guy, what makes you believe in your version of Christianity vs no belief?
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12-19-2010, 03:01 PM
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#103
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I'm an evolution, old-Earth believing Christian because creation by God is the only possibility for the existence of this universe that makes sense to me.
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Since that "makes sense to you" have you ever thought of creation as a natural occurrence? Every year we are finding new scientific explanations for the birth of the universe and as far as I know not one of them talks about god.
Believing in a creator god is one thing but believing in a religious god borders on insanity...nothing about a religious god "makes sense to me"
Fairy tales.
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12-19-2010, 03:31 PM
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#104
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary AB
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Do athiests Christmas shop?
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12-19-2010, 03:39 PM
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#105
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Originally Posted by Finny61
Do athiests Christmas shop?
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I do. What's your point?
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12-19-2010, 03:47 PM
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#106
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I'm just wondering, do athiests just take the nice traditions, change it to something accomodating, ignore the original purpose of the day and the beliefs associated with it?
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12-19-2010, 03:52 PM
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#107
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Originally Posted by Finny61
Do athiests Christmas shop?
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Yipe, I decorate the house and hand out candy at halloween too...still don't believe in the supernatural.
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12-19-2010, 04:00 PM
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#108
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All I can get
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Originally Posted by Finny61
Do athiests Christmas shop?
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LOL.
You do realize that the exchanging of gifts is pagan in origin?
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12-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finny61
I'm just wondering, do athiests just take the nice traditions, change it to something accomodating, ignore the original purpose of the day and the beliefs associated with it?
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Christmas has complex roots.
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12-19-2010, 04:17 PM
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#110
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Join Date: Apr 2006
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(12 + 25i)?
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12-19-2010, 04:17 PM
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#111
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finny61
I'm just wondering, do athiests just take the nice traditions, change it to something accomodating, ignore the original purpose of the day and the beliefs associated with it?
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You mean like everyone does with every fataing "holiday" on the calendar?
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12-19-2010, 04:19 PM
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#112
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I've always been surprised at the number of physiologists and ecologists that believe in both (creationism and evolution). When asked about it, usually they say they choose not to think about it.
I did my undergrad in the USA, and passively I thought I noticed that a higher proportion American's, than Canadian's believe in creationism. Are there any stats on that?
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12-19-2010, 04:22 PM
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#113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finny61
I'm just wondering, do athiests just take the nice traditions, change it to something accomodating, ignore the original purpose of the day and the beliefs associated with it?
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What's wrong with a bunch of atheists exchanging gifts on the 25th of December? I'm an atheist, and I don't see any reason to complicate that with religion. It's just a nice tradition that brings family and others I love, together.
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12-19-2010, 05:01 PM
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#114
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake
What's wrong with a bunch of atheists exchanging gifts on the 25th of December? I'm an atheist, and I don't see any reason to complicate that with religion. It's just a nice tradition that brings family and others I love, together.
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Fine but athiesm is that rejection of a belief and its system why bother flirting with it?
Last edited by Finny61; 12-19-2010 at 05:04 PM.
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12-19-2010, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
LOL.
You do realize that the exchanging of gifts is pagan in origin?
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True and Dec 25 was chosen as the day of Christmas because of pagan celebrations during that time of the year. Its all competition so to speak, I like to get an athiest's gears when they "celebrate" Christmas, I say why bother at all if you don't believe in its foundation for the day.
Last edited by Finny61; 12-19-2010 at 05:44 PM.
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12-19-2010, 05:06 PM
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#116
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finny61
Fine but athiesm is that rejection of a belief and its system why bother flirting with it?
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For the same reason I can go to a gay bar with my gay friends, despite the fact that I'm straight.
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12-19-2010, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
For the same reason I can go to a gay bar with my gay friends, despite the fact that I'm straight.
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Because you like ####?
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12-19-2010, 05:42 PM
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#118
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Calgary AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
For the same reason I can go to a gay bar with my gay friends, despite the fact that I'm straight.
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Do you ask the bar to change the sign so it is politically correct and accepting of all males? Happy Holidays 
Last edited by Finny61; 12-19-2010 at 05:51 PM.
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12-19-2010, 05:58 PM
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#119
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finny61
True and Dec 25 was chosen as the day of Christmas because of pagan celebrations during that time of the year. Its all competition so to speak, I like to get an athiest's gears when they "celebrate" Christmas, I say why bother at all if you don't believe in its foundation for the day.
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Laugh. You really got my gears.
I bother because it's fun to eat turkey and drink booze and exchange presents. Do you think I should stop because I don't attach supernatural significance to the day?
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12-19-2010, 06:04 PM
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#120
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finny61
Do you ask the bar to change the sign so it is politically correct and accepting of all males? Happy Holidays |
Actually I don't mind Happy Holidays because it's inclusive of all the holidays being celebrated. That being said, anyone who throws a fit over "Merry Christmas" is an idiot.
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